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You can only really do it once is one problem, so you want to use it for a _big_ raise if not a promotion. HR won't care and your line manager won't care, assum

You can only really do it once is one problem, so you want to use it for a _big_ raise if not a promotion. HR won't care and your line manager won't care, assuming you do it once. If you do it again you're the boy who called wolf. Also, you need to be prepared to walk if they don't give you the raise. Finally, you actually need to interview and get another offer. They don't just fall out of the sky! Remember that declining the offer from another company to stay in your current role is likely to make them reconsider hiring you. If you're comfortable with the above, go get some leverage!

thedougd 4y ago
As a manager, I agree with this. Although, I would suggest setting the stage sooner by expressing some discontent of compensation. Your manager may not have a clue, and may have 50 other fires. You need to speak up so that your concerns are on their radar. I've had managers come through in big ways, and I've had managers completely fail either of their own fault or because of limitations of the company.
- maccard 4y ago
  Right - walking into a 1:1 and dumping this on the table is a recipe for disaster. You don't need to treat your manager as your friend, but treating them with respect is a prerequisite for this going well. Here's two possible conversations: a) "I'm unhappy here with my compensation and I think I deserve a promotion. I went and interviewed with <insert company name here> and they've offered me $X, as a <TITLE> and I'm going to take it." b) "The last few times we spoke I told you that I thought I was deserving of a promotion. Since last month's meeting, I was contacted by a recruiter from <insert company name here>, and they've made me an offer for $X as a <TITLE>. I think I can keep providing value here as <TITLE> and I'd like you to help me make that happen". As a manager, I would probably tell a) to take it, and try to promote b)

thedougd 4y ago

As a manager, I agree with this. Although, I would suggest setting the stage sooner by expressing some discontent of compensation. Your manager may not have a clue, and may have 50 other fires. You need to speak up so that your concerns are on their radar. I've had managers come through in big ways, and I've had managers completely fail either of their own fault or because of limitations of the company.

maccard 4y ago
Right - walking into a 1:1 and dumping this on the table is a recipe for disaster. You don't need to treat your manager as your friend, but treating them with respect is a prerequisite for this going well. Here's two possible conversations: a) "I'm unhappy here with my compensation and I think I deserve a promotion. I went and interviewed with <insert company name here> and they've offered me $X, as a <TITLE> and I'm going to take it." b) "The last few times we spoke I told you that I thought I was deserving of a promotion. Since last month's meeting, I was contacted by a recruiter from <insert company name here>, and they've made me an offer for $X as a <TITLE>. I think I can keep providing value here as <TITLE> and I'd like you to help me make that happen". As a manager, I would probably tell a) to take it, and try to promote b)