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You don't need to quit tech. You need to find a position that helps solve real problems for the greater good. If you think about it, companies like Apple are ve

You don't need to quit tech. You need to find a position that helps solve real problems for the greater good. If you think about it, companies like Apple are very pro-privacy and don't make money by selling data or tracking folks. Or look into other companies like those non-profits like Mozilla or Signal. Your pay will go down but you'll be content. Or maybe, you could look into building your own company. Facebook is a cesspit of delusion and the "metaverse" initiative they took takes us to a point of no return for all their apps. Tiktok I would say is even worse given how we basically have millions of young teens oscillating on the borderline of being "famous" and sexualizing themselves. Stay away from such social media platforms or those that offer completely "free" products and you are good.

neon_electro 4y ago
I applied to several Apple positions this year, they are still hell-bent on hybrid/on-site positions.
winternett 4y ago
If apple is pro privacy, they wouldn't be putting lidar scanning on their phones. Whether it's enabled or not, Lidar is military-grade tech that has no place on most cell phones, Let's not act like the entire industry isn't heavily invested in data collection... It does damage to real discussions about privacy and consumer protection for everyone.
- bobkazamakis 4y ago
  > Lidar is military-grade tech encryption is military-grade tech too.
  - winternett 4y ago
    Yeah, but encryption is purposed as a security feature, Lidar is a data collection feature. https://www.opentopography.org/blog/iphone-lidar-applications-geosciences https://www.opentopography.org/blog/iphone-lidar-application...
    - happymellon 4y ago
      So is the camera on your phone purely a data collection feature that should be removed? How about the touch screen/keyboard?
      - winternett 4y ago
        Input devices like cameras and keyboards are necessary for interaction, and everyone who creates pretty much knows how to use them. Lidar is completely different tech that can scan an entire room, faces of everyone in it without their consent, and even devices and products in the room with you, even things out of camera view. Vastly more invasive, and most people are completely unaware it is on phones now and what it can do. C'mon man... It's not an argument point, it's necessary privacy threat awareness.
        happymellon 4y ago
        Phone cameras can scan an entire room of people, and faces of everyone in it without their consent. Including devices and products in the room. Lidar will struggle with items in the room as it is simply an depth detection tech so it will simply see a box, rather than chocolate chip cookies. I think lidar is an odd one, that's all. Phone cameras are significantly worse for privacy.
  - rightbyte 4y ago
    > encryption is military-grade tech too Anything painted green and sold for 10x the price is military grade.
    - picsao 4y ago
- happymellon 4y ago
  Lidar is not military grade. Where did you pull that from? You can get Lidar on all sorts of civilian applications, from height mapping on drone photography, to driving assistance on cars. The lidar on phones is over-kill, depth mapping in photos or cheap crappy AR are not great use cases, but that doesn't make it a privacy problem.

neon_electro 4y ago

I applied to several Apple positions this year, they are still hell-bent on hybrid/on-site positions.

winternett 4y ago

If apple is pro privacy, they wouldn't be putting lidar scanning on their phones. Whether it's enabled or not, Lidar is military-grade tech that has no place on most cell phones, Let's not act like the entire industry isn't heavily invested in data collection... It does damage to real discussions about privacy and consumer protection for everyone.

bobkazamakis 4y ago
> Lidar is military-grade tech encryption is military-grade tech too.
- winternett 4y ago
  Yeah, but encryption is purposed as a security feature, Lidar is a data collection feature. https://www.opentopography.org/blog/iphone-lidar-applications-geosciences https://www.opentopography.org/blog/iphone-lidar-application...
  - happymellon 4y ago
    So is the camera on your phone purely a data collection feature that should be removed? How about the touch screen/keyboard?
    - winternett 4y ago
      Input devices like cameras and keyboards are necessary for interaction, and everyone who creates pretty much knows how to use them. Lidar is completely different tech that can scan an entire room, faces of everyone in it without their consent, and even devices and products in the room with you, even things out of camera view. Vastly more invasive, and most people are completely unaware it is on phones now and what it can do. C'mon man... It's not an argument point, it's necessary privacy threat awareness.
      - happymellon 4y ago
        Phone cameras can scan an entire room of people, and faces of everyone in it without their consent. Including devices and products in the room. Lidar will struggle with items in the room as it is simply an depth detection tech so it will simply see a box, rather than chocolate chip cookies. I think lidar is an odd one, that's all. Phone cameras are significantly worse for privacy.
- rightbyte 4y ago
  > encryption is military-grade tech too Anything painted green and sold for 10x the price is military grade.
  - picsao 4y ago
happymellon 4y ago
Lidar is not military grade. Where did you pull that from? You can get Lidar on all sorts of civilian applications, from height mapping on drone photography, to driving assistance on cars. The lidar on phones is over-kill, depth mapping in photos or cheap crappy AR are not great use cases, but that doesn't make it a privacy problem.