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Make it a circle, get rid of the mirror, fill in the center. Bam! You got yourself a city.
by neals 4y ago
Make it a circle, get rid of the mirror, fill in the center. Bam! You got yourself a city.
- ars 4y agoThey want everyone to have a view of nature, not of city.
- hristov 4y agoThey are planning to pay a mighty high cost for a bunch of views of desert and stony mountains. Not that I am knocking the views, they have a certain serene value to them, but it is not that hard to get those types of views in Saudi Arabia.
- mirekrusin 4y agoIf it works fine, they can build another one on Mars.
- bayesian_horse 4y agoA circle is harder to build and has more issues regarding sunlight. The sun hitting the building(s) is both a benefit (solar cells) and a problem (heat generation) at the same time. A linear structure will get a much more even energy distribution than a circle. Also one of the goals of the project is to reduce the energy needs of the population by making ways shorter. If you spread a city out on a circle, you got a much more complicated and expensive transportation problem than just the linear structure presented here.
- anodari 4y agoAlso, a circle, you couldn't expand indefinitely
- AlexandrB 4y agoWait, you can expand a line indefinitely? How? Eventually you will hit water or a mountain.
- ouid 4y agowrong on all counts. A disc has the same transit "solution" that a line does, just draw a spiral. for a line however, this is the only solution, and boy is it terrible. Imagine if society were all in one skyscraper and the only mode of transit was the elevator.
- bobthepanda 4y agoI think transport would be infinitely worse in a linear city. In a traditional street network, there are many ways to get from A to B and one link being unavailable is not the end of the world. Forcing everyone onto essentially the same street is guaranteed to cause both high fragility and high congestion, since everyone has to squeeze into the same line.
- plantwallshoe 4y agoIf it’s 200m wide you could probably get 6-8 trains running parallel.
- Double_a_92 4y agoBut if you knew that everyone has to use that same street, you could dimension it properly because you know exactly what to expect.
- bayesian_horse 4y agoThere's no need to have only one line to connect everything, even in a linear structure. It's still about the topology. At the simplest there would be one line connecting from end to end, which should be the fastest and the one with the fewest stops. But then you have smaller lines, travelling in their own tubes, connecting local areas. That way you can travel between any two points relatively fast and avoid congestion. You can build redundancy into this system. But also, it's not a catastrophe on a normally 20 minute trip if there is blocked section and you have to walk a few minutes, take a local connection to bypass the blockage and then go on. Happens to me all the time... The big benefit in a linear city is that the transport pods never need to turn around. You also don't need to manufacture curved rails or things like that. You can build structures like that in a "2D" city, but it's harder.
- amluto 4y agoIn 2D, you can build a grid of straight line railways. Riders transfer zero or one times. Cost scales proportionally to area (and hence population) assuming constant density. Time between two random points scales as sqrt(size). Ridership on a given rail segment scales like sqrt(size), which may be tolerable. In 1D, you can build a linear railway. Cost scales proportionally to length (and hence population) if you assume that the the railway merely needs to get longer as population grows, but this gives a system where ridership on a given rail segment scales linearly with population, which is much worse. Time between two random points also scales linearly with population. The added costs associated with improving performance given the worse scaling seem likely to blow the whole thing up.
- mnd999 4y agoNah, keep the mirror. Then you can focus the light into the middle and you have a built-in incinerator for any dissidents / journalists who might pop up.
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- asah 4y agoApple HQ ?