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Is the Tucker Carlson story few days back, about the tiktok algo promoting edu and wholesome content within China, but twerking and gender transition in the wes

by gsatic 4y ago

Is the Tucker Carlson story few days back, about the tiktok algo promoting edu and wholesome content within China, but twerking and gender transition in the west true?

desindol 4y ago
Yes because they do as they are told.
abledon 4y ago
waiting for my Civilization: VII game to have 'boost twerking signal' when I reach modern age tech trees
- smegsicle 4y ago
  https://www.news24.com/news24/xArchive/Archive/Porn-the-new-weapon-of-choice-20020330 https://www.news24.com/news24/xArchive/Archive/Porn-the-new-... psychological warfare
trowawee 4y ago
> Is the Tucker Carlson story [...] true? No
- powerhour 4y ago
  I dunno, I believe his ranting about M&Ms came from a real place. He sure seemed upset that their recent redesign left him less sexually satisfied.
  - trowawee 4y ago
    Very good point. His stories about his personal sexual kinks, lightly disguised as news, are probably accurate. Disturbing, but accurate.
falcolas 4y ago
I get bird and cat videos; plus some Kronk and Dr. Doofenschmirtz. It gives you more of what you watch and upvote. So the contents of your For You page are on you, after the first 5 or so videos.
- winternett 4y ago
  You get bird videos a lot too?! Lol... I used to have a parrot and IG and TikTok think that's all I want to see now every day... It's really not smart... People aren't all one dimensional. Their use cases/journeys need a lot of work. Also, TikTok is not accounting for views properly (Mr Beast reported it on TikTok among many others), they redirect users away from certain accounts when links are shared on web sites, and they even stop certain videos from playing and shadow ban US users if their content talks negatively about the platform... Just like the country it comes from might do.
nemothekid 4y ago
Certain types of content is banned on Douyin but the idea that tiktok promotes "edu and wholesome content within China" is a myth spread by Andrew Tate a couple months ago. TikTok promotes the content that you respond to, no different than the recommendation algos we've gotten from our homegrown social media companies. Their biggest differentiator is that the signals they use are way better. If you see alot of gender transitioning content, then it says more about the content you watch. That said, if you think critically, if Chinese users as a whole preferred educational and wholesome content on tiktok, that says more about Chinese society and what they value not that there is some boogeyman who holds a big level on whether to show you cats or twerking.
- gruez 4y ago
  >>the tiktok algo promoting edu and wholesome content within China, but twerking and gender transition in the west true? >Certain types of content is banned on Douyin but the idea that tiktok promotes "edu and wholesome content within China" is a myth spread These two comments aren't really contradictory. Tiktok might technically not be "promoting edu and wholesome content" in china, but they might have banned the content that the parent poster thinks is repugnant (ie. "twerking and gender transition"). Indeed, depending on how much stuff is banned and what you consider as "wholesome", it's very possible that the chinese censors banned everything that you don't consider wholesome.
  - nemothekid 4y ago
    >These two comments aren't really contradictory. No, I think the phrasing of the statement is misleading. It implies that TikTok (or some Chinese boogeyman) is the one making the decision to "poison" American Tiktok viewers. That isn't the case; the two cultures are different - China may ban choose to ban twerking videos on social media platforms but the US could not do something like that without infringing on free speech. The people want twerking videos (TikTok did not invent "sex sells"), whether or not tiktok gives it to you is a function of the countries government, not some Chinese mastermind. That said, I don't think the statement is globally true. I opened TikTok just now on "unpaired words"[1], I've never seen a video on transitioning and I get plenty of educationally curious content. This content does exist on US TikTok and is being promoted; you just have to be interested in watching it. [1] https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRA7HJSv/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRA7HJSv/?k=1
atoav 4y ago
You mean the story by the guy that (successfully!) used this legal defense in court: > The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' and > Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes." So if even the guys lawyers tell you any reasonable person would take him with a grain of salt, I would assume that everything he says is indeed exaggerated and non-literal as they phrase it. Or phrased differently: he will say what he thinks his audience wants to hear. What he says might be completely made up, have some important bits omitted or contain a kernel of truth with a truckload of fantasy. From a European perspective this guy seems so over the top that I thought it was meant to be parody when I first saw a clip from him. source: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-...
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exolymph 4y ago
If we rephrase the question as "Does CCP suppress or ban LGBTQ content?" then I can easily see the answer being yes.

by gsatic 4y ago

Is the Tucker Carlson story few days back, about the tiktok algo promoting edu and wholesome content within China, but twerking and gender transition in the west true?

desindol 4y ago

Yes because they do as they are told.

abledon 4y ago

waiting for my Civilization: VII game to have 'boost twerking signal' when I reach modern age tech trees

smegsicle 4y ago
https://www.news24.com/news24/xArchive/Archive/Porn-the-new-weapon-of-choice-20020330 https://www.news24.com/news24/xArchive/Archive/Porn-the-new-... psychological warfare

trowawee 4y ago

> Is the Tucker Carlson story [...] true? No

powerhour 4y ago
I dunno, I believe his ranting about M&Ms came from a real place. He sure seemed upset that their recent redesign left him less sexually satisfied.
- trowawee 4y ago
  Very good point. His stories about his personal sexual kinks, lightly disguised as news, are probably accurate. Disturbing, but accurate.

falcolas 4y ago

I get bird and cat videos; plus some Kronk and Dr. Doofenschmirtz. It gives you more of what you watch and upvote. So the contents of your For You page are on you, after the first 5 or so videos.

winternett 4y ago
You get bird videos a lot too?! Lol... I used to have a parrot and IG and TikTok think that's all I want to see now every day... It's really not smart... People aren't all one dimensional. Their use cases/journeys need a lot of work. Also, TikTok is not accounting for views properly (Mr Beast reported it on TikTok among many others), they redirect users away from certain accounts when links are shared on web sites, and they even stop certain videos from playing and shadow ban US users if their content talks negatively about the platform... Just like the country it comes from might do.

nemothekid 4y ago

Certain types of content is banned on Douyin but the idea that tiktok promotes "edu and wholesome content within China" is a myth spread by Andrew Tate a couple months ago. TikTok promotes the content that you respond to, no different than the recommendation algos we've gotten from our homegrown social media companies. Their biggest differentiator is that the signals they use are way better. If you see alot of gender transitioning content, then it says more about the content you watch. That said, if you think critically, if Chinese users as a whole preferred educational and wholesome content on tiktok, that says more about Chinese society and what they value not that there is some boogeyman who holds a big level on whether to show you cats or twerking.

gruez 4y ago
>>the tiktok algo promoting edu and wholesome content within China, but twerking and gender transition in the west true? >Certain types of content is banned on Douyin but the idea that tiktok promotes "edu and wholesome content within China" is a myth spread These two comments aren't really contradictory. Tiktok might technically not be "promoting edu and wholesome content" in china, but they might have banned the content that the parent poster thinks is repugnant (ie. "twerking and gender transition"). Indeed, depending on how much stuff is banned and what you consider as "wholesome", it's very possible that the chinese censors banned everything that you don't consider wholesome.
- nemothekid 4y ago
  >These two comments aren't really contradictory. No, I think the phrasing of the statement is misleading. It implies that TikTok (or some Chinese boogeyman) is the one making the decision to "poison" American Tiktok viewers. That isn't the case; the two cultures are different - China may ban choose to ban twerking videos on social media platforms but the US could not do something like that without infringing on free speech. The people want twerking videos (TikTok did not invent "sex sells"), whether or not tiktok gives it to you is a function of the countries government, not some Chinese mastermind. That said, I don't think the statement is globally true. I opened TikTok just now on "unpaired words"[1], I've never seen a video on transitioning and I get plenty of educationally curious content. This content does exist on US TikTok and is being promoted; you just have to be interested in watching it. [1] https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRA7HJSv/?k=1 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRA7HJSv/?k=1

atoav 4y ago

You mean the story by the guy that (successfully!) used this legal defense in court: > The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' and > Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes." So if even the guys lawyers tell you any reasonable person would take him with a grain of salt, I would assume that everything he says is indeed exaggerated and non-literal as they phrase it. Or phrased differently: he will say what he thinks his audience wants to hear. What he says might be completely made up, have some important bits omitted or contain a kernel of truth with a truckload of fantasy. From a European perspective this guy seems so over the top that I thought it was meant to be parody when I first saw a clip from him. source: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-...

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exolymph 4y ago

If we rephrase the question as "Does CCP suppress or ban LGBTQ content?" then I can easily see the answer being yes.