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Can we acknowledge yet that the concept of classes as tiny programs with tiny APIs has failed? [...] mainly based around working mostly in C++ Speaking as a C#

by 300bps 4y ago

Can we acknowledge yet that the concept of classes as tiny programs with tiny APIs has failed? [...] mainly based around working mostly in C++ Speaking as a C# developer, I think the concept of classes as tiny programs with tiny APIs works very well.

CoolGuySteve 4y ago
It's been a decade since I used C# but the corporate design pattern culture of that language back then turned me off of it forever. Everything looked like this: https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpris... Maybe it's better now but the Java/C# practice of shoveling largely empty classes around with an IDE isn't something I'd point to as a good example.
- Jtsummers 4y ago
  I've worked with C# off and on for over a decade, and never encountered anything close to that. Maybe the trick was that I was working with competent people. Now the Fortran code I've encountered, that's the stuff of nightmares (to be fair to Fortran I've also encountered good code, but there seems to be a generation of embedded developers who have no formal programming training that all adopted a style of Fortran inspired by Cthulhu).
- schmookeeg 4y ago
  Wow, what a repo. I can't even tell if the author is serious or this is some tinderbox-dry satire, bravo either way. I'm sad that I've worked with plenty of codebases that look exactly like that and I twitched a little bit browsing around. :)
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    You can see the exact equivalent in the Java world.
  - bathtub365 4y ago
    From the readme: > Although this project is intended as satire, we take openness and inclusivity very seriously. To that end we have adopted the following code of conduct.
- 300bps 4y ago
  It's been a decade since I used C# Well the last time I regularly used C++ was Borland C++ 3.1 from 1992. I'm not sure you'd be interested in my opinions on the language from 30 years ago.

by 300bps 4y ago

CoolGuySteve 4y ago

It's been a decade since I used C# but the corporate design pattern culture of that language back then turned me off of it forever. Everything looked like this: https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpris... Maybe it's better now but the Java/C# practice of shoveling largely empty classes around with an IDE isn't something I'd point to as a good example.

Jtsummers 4y ago
I've worked with C# off and on for over a decade, and never encountered anything close to that. Maybe the trick was that I was working with competent people. Now the Fortran code I've encountered, that's the stuff of nightmares (to be fair to Fortran I've also encountered good code, but there seems to be a generation of embedded developers who have no formal programming training that all adopted a style of Fortran inspired by Cthulhu).
schmookeeg 4y ago
Wow, what a repo. I can't even tell if the author is serious or this is some tinderbox-dry satire, bravo either way. I'm sad that I've worked with plenty of codebases that look exactly like that and I twitched a little bit browsing around. :)
- jacquesm 4y ago
  You can see the exact equivalent in the Java world.
- bathtub365 4y ago
  From the readme: > Although this project is intended as satire, we take openness and inclusivity very seriously. To that end we have adopted the following code of conduct.
300bps 4y ago
It's been a decade since I used C# Well the last time I regularly used C++ was Borland C++ 3.1 from 1992. I'm not sure you'd be interested in my opinions on the language from 30 years ago.