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Agreed. The very existence of the IDEA of marketing has depressing implications -- you are always going to see what the top bidder or the person with the best S

Agreed. The very existence of the IDEA of marketing has depressing implications -- you are always going to see what the top bidder or the person with the best SEO wants you to see, rather than what you want to see, at least as long as players like google are king. I remember the pre-marketing internet economy of the late 90s and early 00s and oh boy was it nicer than this shiny turd. What's worse is the pages with the best ROI tend to be scams, so you're basically guaranteed to see scams because they can always afford to out-bid on their relevant keywords.

dragontamer 4y ago
> I remember the pre-marketing internet economy of the late 90s and early 00s and oh boy was it nicer than this shiny turd. You mean when everyone became obsessed with beanie babies, Furbies, and got suckered into Enron / Worldcom scams? Marketing just took different forms back then. It was physical, store-bound. It wasn't online because people were at the malls, reading newspapers and watching TV Ads. In some cases, people would listen to "boiler room" calls over their landline telephone to get pumped/dumped. All that has changed, is that today we have centralized all forms of marketing to the internet. Instead of stores pushing us marketing at the front of the store as we walk in, we get hit with ads on the top of Google / Amazon's pages. Instead of boiler-room scams being pushed out by telephone, we get Facebook groups pushing cryptocoin rug pulls.
- permo-w 4y ago
  they're referring to the pre-marketing internet economy. it seems as if you read it as the pre-internet marketing economy?
- sam0x17 4y ago
  > Marketing just took different forms back then Right, crucially, it didn't really take form on the internet that much at all ;)
Terr_ 4y ago
> I remember the pre-marketing internet economy of the late 90s That reminds me of Web-rings [1] and later LinkExchange [2]. It was still marketing or at least advertising, but in retrospect is seems quaint and innocent. Conversely, many portal pages [3] were still attempts to create a walled-garden. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinkExchange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinkExchange [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_portal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_portal
- sam0x17 4y ago
  Yes, my personal website had 20 or so affiliate badges / buttons from a lot of the skinning and UX customization sites I frequented. The early days of wincustomize/stardock were a beautiful time

dragontamer 4y ago

> I remember the pre-marketing internet economy of the late 90s and early 00s and oh boy was it nicer than this shiny turd. You mean when everyone became obsessed with beanie babies, Furbies, and got suckered into Enron / Worldcom scams? Marketing just took different forms back then. It was physical, store-bound. It wasn't online because people were at the malls, reading newspapers and watching TV Ads. In some cases, people would listen to "boiler room" calls over their landline telephone to get pumped/dumped. All that has changed, is that today we have centralized all forms of marketing to the internet. Instead of stores pushing us marketing at the front of the store as we walk in, we get hit with ads on the top of Google / Amazon's pages. Instead of boiler-room scams being pushed out by telephone, we get Facebook groups pushing cryptocoin rug pulls.

permo-w 4y ago
they're referring to the pre-marketing internet economy. it seems as if you read it as the pre-internet marketing economy?
sam0x17 4y ago
> Marketing just took different forms back then Right, crucially, it didn't really take form on the internet that much at all ;)

Terr_ 4y ago

> I remember the pre-marketing internet economy of the late 90s That reminds me of Web-rings [1] and later LinkExchange [2]. It was still marketing or at least advertising, but in retrospect is seems quaint and innocent. Conversely, many portal pages [3] were still attempts to create a walled-garden. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinkExchange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinkExchange [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_portal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_portal

sam0x17 4y ago
Yes, my personal website had 20 or so affiliate badges / buttons from a lot of the skinning and UX customization sites I frequented. The early days of wincustomize/stardock were a beautiful time