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Get yourself a 4Runner and you'll be immune to such market cycles!

decafninja 4y ago
4Runner, along with the rest of its related family - Land Cruiser, Tacoma, Sequoia, and Lexus GX/LX, are probably the vehicle of choice for surviving the zombie apocalypse.
vaidhy 4y ago
the gas bill will bankrupt you first :)
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Gas is not that expensive. Even in CA, it is a few thousand dollars per year at most. And the 4Runner and other cars can get to a few hundred thousand miles easy, so compared to spending a few extra tens of thousands on a new car, gas is a negligible cost. Plus you’ll have a 4Runner. 500 cents per gallon, 15 miles per gallon, that is 33 cents per mile in fuel costs. A 35mpg car would be 15 cents per mile. At 20k miles per year (which is a lot), you’re looking at an extra $3,600 per year. But even after 10 years/200k miles, you will have massive resale value due to their reputation as being indestructible (assuming you live in a place that does not salt).
  - acdha 4y ago
    That’s ignoring the higher purchase cost, though. At the end of those 10 years you’d have a vehicle with a $13-15k KBB estimated value (assuming it’s in very good condition) but will have spent enough extra up front and on gas to buy two new efficient cars even before you consider the greater cost of a heavier vehicle like the 4Runner in parts and tires or insurance.
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      True, I was only considering the cost of fuel assuming you wanted that size of a car. Actually, I feel like catalytic converters thefts might make it a uneconomical compared to EVs these days, assuming you live in a state that requires emissions testing.
- bojangleslover 4y ago
  I would rather have a consistent and predictable gas bill than have erratic mechanical costs and a far shorter car lifespan. Also gas is dollar cost averaged as you buy it over the lifetime of your car usage. I'm not saying there isn't a point where gas would outweigh the indestructibility of the Toyota SUVs. I think that point is closer to $8-$10 a gallon like it is in EU. One could do a proper discounted cash flow analysis but again the problem would he unpredictability of car maintenance on a non Toyota SUV. And also ask yourself, would you rather a loved one get in a crash driving a Golf or a 4runner?

4Runner, along with the rest of its related family - Land Cruiser, Tacoma, Sequoia, and Lexus GX/LX, are probably the vehicle of choice for surviving the zombie apocalypse.

vaidhy 4y ago

the gas bill will bankrupt you first :)

lotsofpulp 4y ago
Gas is not that expensive. Even in CA, it is a few thousand dollars per year at most. And the 4Runner and other cars can get to a few hundred thousand miles easy, so compared to spending a few extra tens of thousands on a new car, gas is a negligible cost. Plus you’ll have a 4Runner. 500 cents per gallon, 15 miles per gallon, that is 33 cents per mile in fuel costs. A 35mpg car would be 15 cents per mile. At 20k miles per year (which is a lot), you’re looking at an extra $3,600 per year. But even after 10 years/200k miles, you will have massive resale value due to their reputation as being indestructible (assuming you live in a place that does not salt).
- acdha 4y ago
  That’s ignoring the higher purchase cost, though. At the end of those 10 years you’d have a vehicle with a $13-15k KBB estimated value (assuming it’s in very good condition) but will have spent enough extra up front and on gas to buy two new efficient cars even before you consider the greater cost of a heavier vehicle like the 4Runner in parts and tires or insurance.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    True, I was only considering the cost of fuel assuming you wanted that size of a car. Actually, I feel like catalytic converters thefts might make it a uneconomical compared to EVs these days, assuming you live in a state that requires emissions testing.
bojangleslover 4y ago
I would rather have a consistent and predictable gas bill than have erratic mechanical costs and a far shorter car lifespan. Also gas is dollar cost averaged as you buy it over the lifetime of your car usage. I'm not saying there isn't a point where gas would outweigh the indestructibility of the Toyota SUVs. I think that point is closer to $8-$10 a gallon like it is in EU. One could do a proper discounted cash flow analysis but again the problem would he unpredictability of car maintenance on a non Toyota SUV. And also ask yourself, would you rather a loved one get in a crash driving a Golf or a 4runner?