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While I have not had time to check this out, more generally whenever I read “Google launches…” I wonder how long until it makes it into the ever-growing graveya

While I have not had time to check this out, more generally whenever I read “Google launches…” I wonder how long until it makes it into the ever-growing graveyard? [1] https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ [2] https://gcemetery.co/ https://gcemetery.co/

jsnell 4y ago
This is an experimental project, being very clearly pitched as such, and with the documentation being really clear about how if you can use any other language you should. They're bending over backwards to make the expectations clear. It is being developed in the open, targets a goverance model of an open foundation not controlled by any company, and has a goal that no more than half the contributors to the language should be from any one company. It's also a programming language whose compiler you'd run on your local machine, not a networked service that can actually be shut down. Out of all the projects where you could trot out this tired "killed by google" shit, this is literally the worst one. What is your thought process here? "I don't know anything about the subject, but let me repeat a lame joke that people will surely find hilarious despite it being the thousandth time it gets posted to HN this year. Surely it will play to the crowd."
- trasz 4y ago
  >not controlled by any company, and has a goal that no more than half the contributors to the language should be from any one company Not controlled by Google in that Google literally owns at most half of it?
  - jsnell 4y ago
    No, those are two separate things which is why I listed them separately. There is the question of the governance / ownership model is (independent foundation), and the question of having a broad base of contributors to the design / implementation. What, exactly, would they need to do to satisfy you?
    - trasz 4y ago
      Not being both de facto and de iure controlled by Google would be a start.
usefulcat 4y ago
On one hand, fair point. OTOH, last I heard, golang is still very much alive.
- anaganisk 4y ago
  Surprisingly flutter, angular.

jsnell 4y ago

This is an experimental project, being very clearly pitched as such, and with the documentation being really clear about how if you can use any other language you should. They're bending over backwards to make the expectations clear. It is being developed in the open, targets a goverance model of an open foundation not controlled by any company, and has a goal that no more than half the contributors to the language should be from any one company. It's also a programming language whose compiler you'd run on your local machine, not a networked service that can actually be shut down. Out of all the projects where you could trot out this tired "killed by google" shit, this is literally the worst one. What is your thought process here? "I don't know anything about the subject, but let me repeat a lame joke that people will surely find hilarious despite it being the thousandth time it gets posted to HN this year. Surely it will play to the crowd."

trasz 4y ago
>not controlled by any company, and has a goal that no more than half the contributors to the language should be from any one company Not controlled by Google in that Google literally owns at most half of it?
- jsnell 4y ago
  No, those are two separate things which is why I listed them separately. There is the question of the governance / ownership model is (independent foundation), and the question of having a broad base of contributors to the design / implementation. What, exactly, would they need to do to satisfy you?
  - trasz 4y ago
    Not being both de facto and de iure controlled by Google would be a start.

usefulcat 4y ago

On one hand, fair point. OTOH, last I heard, golang is still very much alive.

anaganisk 4y ago
Surprisingly flutter, angular.