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You can go so much farther with this. How about letting me paste in any TOS and have it analyzed for important bits or things out of the ordinary? I'd love havi

by pkulak 15y ago

You can go so much farther with this. How about letting me paste in any TOS and have it analyzed for important bits or things out of the ordinary? I'd love having my own personal robot lawyer to read over all the stuff I sign or agree to!

michaelaiello 15y ago
Thanks, and yes indeed, that's what we are hoping to get towards. We started out with a few other categories & classifiers (i.e. does the site claim intellectual property over what you post ) but wanted to start with "does this site sell my data." We can train it on TOSs and categorize there.
- a3camero 15y ago
  Do you have a background in this (re: JD)? This is a very complicated task. In fact it's such a tricky task that I think you might be better off just building a database of terms. A quick Googling didn't turn up anything so maybe this is something else you could offer. Have people submit what sites that want you to take a look at, take info from people... Fairly different than what you're doing but seems more likely to give people information that's useful. I wouldn't want to rely on a machine-generated evaluation that wasn't 100% right 100% of the time!
gglanzani 15y ago
Would you trust such a lawyer? No offense to the developer, I think he id a terrific job, but trusting a machine to parse a contract for something fishy seems a little too... Well, risky. Of course it'd be great when you have a positive match.
- kiriappeee 15y ago
  Well in most cases most people don't read the TOS anyways much less find a real lawyer to comb through it for legal gotchas. So having this quick copy paste checker seems to be a huge step in a positive direction.
- bostonvaulter2 15y ago
  I view it more as a bug-finding tool. That is it can indicate the presence of data sharing/selling (bugs) but cannot prove that there isn't any.
- pkulak 15y ago
  Still better than not reading it at all, which is what I do now.

by pkulak 15y ago

michaelaiello 15y ago

Thanks, and yes indeed, that's what we are hoping to get towards. We started out with a few other categories & classifiers (i.e. does the site claim intellectual property over what you post ) but wanted to start with "does this site sell my data." We can train it on TOSs and categorize there.

a3camero 15y ago
Do you have a background in this (re: JD)? This is a very complicated task. In fact it's such a tricky task that I think you might be better off just building a database of terms. A quick Googling didn't turn up anything so maybe this is something else you could offer. Have people submit what sites that want you to take a look at, take info from people... Fairly different than what you're doing but seems more likely to give people information that's useful. I wouldn't want to rely on a machine-generated evaluation that wasn't 100% right 100% of the time!

gglanzani 15y ago

Would you trust such a lawyer? No offense to the developer, I think he id a terrific job, but trusting a machine to parse a contract for something fishy seems a little too... Well, risky. Of course it'd be great when you have a positive match.

kiriappeee 15y ago
Well in most cases most people don't read the TOS anyways much less find a real lawyer to comb through it for legal gotchas. So having this quick copy paste checker seems to be a huge step in a positive direction.
bostonvaulter2 15y ago
I view it more as a bug-finding tool. That is it can indicate the presence of data sharing/selling (bugs) but cannot prove that there isn't any.
pkulak 15y ago
Still better than not reading it at all, which is what I do now.