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The country where having a pet could soon land you in jail

28 points by areoform 4y ago

LadyCailin 4y ago
What an absolutely horrific and senseless law.
- 4ad 4y ago
  Sadly, as far as iranian horrific and senseless laws, I think this is pretty mild. I am more concerned about women and dissidents.
  - LadyCailin 4y ago
    Of course. It's just yet another to add to the pile.
cscurmudgeon 4y ago
The country is Iran. Sad to see BBC resorting to clickbait.
- throwaway123x2 4y ago
  The BBC has been rabidly anti-Iran since like 2003, when I first started reading it.
  - lynguist 4y ago
    Clickbait means hiding the content of the article from its title. The title without clickbait would read: In Iran, having a pet could soon land you in jail (bbc.com)
mynameishere 4y ago
Sure, dogs drool (says so right in the Koran) but I thought the prophet liked cats.
- INTPenis 4y ago
  The prophet drooled too, when he had his epileptic fits that were thought to be communications with angels.
  - bm3719 4y ago
    The Messenger of Allah may have also been doing the same when he entered 9 year old Aisha's tent to consummate their marriage.
zvmaz 4y ago
> Symbols of 'Westernisation' This a widely used rhetoric used by islamists, and "post-colonialists" in my country (Algeria). No amount of philosophical sophistication will defeat this intellectual tool of terror.
- _fat_santa 4y ago
  It's such a bullshit excuse, but TBH the real reason is: "we need to show you that we the government still have ultimate power over you, so let us implement this harsh rule that serves no purpose but to show you who is boss".
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Sin2x 4y ago
More Cold War propaganda. Sadly, we are going to see much more of it in the coming years. China, Iran, Russia and whoever supports them are going to be routinely smeared from head to toe by the MSM, of which BBC is one of the most egregiously biased.
- zvmaz 4y ago
  But is what the article relates true?
  - Sin2x 4y ago
    Of course it's true -- it states that something could happen. Therefore, it's true whether or not that happens, that's basic discrete mathematics. But the thought was planted and that is what counts in the end. That's how propaganda works -- I highly recommend the seminal book on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)
    - honkdaddy 4y ago
      > Police there recently announced that walking dogs in parks was a crime. The ban was justified as a measure to "protect the safety of the public". Sounds like it’s already happening; that was in the first paragraph of the article. I don’t see how this is an example of propaganda, unless you consider any news reporting in general to be propaganda.
      - Sin2x 4y ago
        And why would I believe what MSM says on the matter concerning the "enemy" state? A quick google shows that this particular propagandist item was planted quite a few years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1ospuo/til_it_is_illegal_to_walkown_a_dog_in_iran/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1ospuo/til_i... If there are any Iranians on HN, I would be glad if they could share some light on the recent developments, of course. UPD: More Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/iran/comments/snigug/comment/hw5oqw0/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iran/comments/snigug/comment/hw5oqw...
helge9210 4y ago
Israel has a law proposed (by religious parties) to tax dogs $2500 annually. Edit: emphasis
- Sin2x 4y ago
  Dog owners probably %)
  - kmlx 4y ago
    if it’s actually dogs, then they should get a job, pay taxes etc etc
  - helge9210 4y ago
    Of course.
tayo42 4y ago
IDK what the motivation is here for Iran, but I think humans blew it with pets. We have non native cats destroying sensitive ecosystems, i was just reading about rabies outbreaks in stray dog populations. Theres over population of these pets in general so we kill them. the abusive breeds that exist. If people really cared about taking care of animals we wouldn't have breeders making pure animals for people to have as status symbols. Then people just dump their pets when they get bored of them. Dont bother training them or taking care of them properly.I could go on with the issues pets cause. theres to many terrible owners and issues pets cause, we really should have some control over these animals. its wild out there.
- colpabar 4y ago
  you could move to iran :^)
  - tayo42 4y ago
    why? so we can continue to ignore the externalities of having little fluffy things around? the comment and observation makes you uncomfortable? please tell me why bulldogs should be allowed to exist. its insane what we allow to happen to animals
    - Veen 4y ago
      It's horrendous what breeders have done to the English Bulldog. Two centuries ago they were beautiful healthy working dogs (although unfortunately used for cruel sports). Today they are deformed and unhealthy. Last week I saw someone wheeling two youngish bulldogs along in a cart/pram-like contraption because they were too unhealthy to walk properly.
- goethes_kind 4y ago
  Without making value judgements, I agree with you. There are definitely a lot of costs associated with owning pets.
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dragonwriter 4y ago
Like, doesn't the headline refer to every country (and without the “soon”, too)? Sure, which pets are problematic is a cultural variable that differs from country to country and within countries over time, but...

28 points by areoform 4y ago

LadyCailin 4y ago

What an absolutely horrific and senseless law.

4ad 4y ago
Sadly, as far as iranian horrific and senseless laws, I think this is pretty mild. I am more concerned about women and dissidents.
- LadyCailin 4y ago
  Of course. It's just yet another to add to the pile.

cscurmudgeon 4y ago

The country is Iran. Sad to see BBC resorting to clickbait.

throwaway123x2 4y ago
The BBC has been rabidly anti-Iran since like 2003, when I first started reading it.
- lynguist 4y ago
  Clickbait means hiding the content of the article from its title. The title without clickbait would read: In Iran, having a pet could soon land you in jail (bbc.com)

mynameishere 4y ago

Sure, dogs drool (says so right in the Koran) but I thought the prophet liked cats.

INTPenis 4y ago
The prophet drooled too, when he had his epileptic fits that were thought to be communications with angels.
- bm3719 4y ago
  The Messenger of Allah may have also been doing the same when he entered 9 year old Aisha's tent to consummate their marriage.

zvmaz 4y ago

> Symbols of 'Westernisation' This a widely used rhetoric used by islamists, and "post-colonialists" in my country (Algeria). No amount of philosophical sophistication will defeat this intellectual tool of terror.

_fat_santa 4y ago
It's such a bullshit excuse, but TBH the real reason is: "we need to show you that we the government still have ultimate power over you, so let us implement this harsh rule that serves no purpose but to show you who is boss".

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Sin2x 4y ago

More Cold War propaganda. Sadly, we are going to see much more of it in the coming years. China, Iran, Russia and whoever supports them are going to be routinely smeared from head to toe by the MSM, of which BBC is one of the most egregiously biased.

zvmaz 4y ago
But is what the article relates true?
- Sin2x 4y ago
  Of course it's true -- it states that something could happen. Therefore, it's true whether or not that happens, that's basic discrete mathematics. But the thought was planted and that is what counts in the end. That's how propaganda works -- I highly recommend the seminal book on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)
  - honkdaddy 4y ago
    > Police there recently announced that walking dogs in parks was a crime. The ban was justified as a measure to "protect the safety of the public". Sounds like it’s already happening; that was in the first paragraph of the article. I don’t see how this is an example of propaganda, unless you consider any news reporting in general to be propaganda.
    - Sin2x 4y ago
      And why would I believe what MSM says on the matter concerning the "enemy" state? A quick google shows that this particular propagandist item was planted quite a few years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1ospuo/til_it_is_illegal_to_walkown_a_dog_in_iran/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1ospuo/til_i... If there are any Iranians on HN, I would be glad if they could share some light on the recent developments, of course. UPD: More Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/iran/comments/snigug/comment/hw5oqw0/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iran/comments/snigug/comment/hw5oqw...

helge9210 4y ago

Israel has a law proposed (by religious parties) to tax dogs $2500 annually. Edit: emphasis

Sin2x 4y ago
Dog owners probably %)
- kmlx 4y ago
  if it’s actually dogs, then they should get a job, pay taxes etc etc
- helge9210 4y ago
  Of course.

tayo42 4y ago

IDK what the motivation is here for Iran, but I think humans blew it with pets. We have non native cats destroying sensitive ecosystems, i was just reading about rabies outbreaks in stray dog populations. Theres over population of these pets in general so we kill them. the abusive breeds that exist. If people really cared about taking care of animals we wouldn't have breeders making pure animals for people to have as status symbols. Then people just dump their pets when they get bored of them. Dont bother training them or taking care of them properly.I could go on with the issues pets cause. theres to many terrible owners and issues pets cause, we really should have some control over these animals. its wild out there.

colpabar 4y ago
you could move to iran :^)
- tayo42 4y ago
  why? so we can continue to ignore the externalities of having little fluffy things around? the comment and observation makes you uncomfortable? please tell me why bulldogs should be allowed to exist. its insane what we allow to happen to animals
  - Veen 4y ago
    It's horrendous what breeders have done to the English Bulldog. Two centuries ago they were beautiful healthy working dogs (although unfortunately used for cruel sports). Today they are deformed and unhealthy. Last week I saw someone wheeling two youngish bulldogs along in a cart/pram-like contraption because they were too unhealthy to walk properly.
goethes_kind 4y ago
Without making value judgements, I agree with you. There are definitely a lot of costs associated with owning pets.
- 4y ago

dragonwriter 4y ago

Like, doesn't the headline refer to every country (and without the “soon”, too)? Sure, which pets are problematic is a cultural variable that differs from country to country and within countries over time, but...