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Save the Soil

30 points by dnetesn 4y ago

babataiyoh 4y ago
It's nice to see this inspiring global campaign getting wider and wider coverage.
metrognome 4y ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20220726030213/https://worldsensorium.com/save-the-soil/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220726030213/https://worldsens...
indianmouse 4y ago
Wow! One of the biggest con man has made it to HN as well? He is commoditizing soil and has found a new way to make money. For those who really worry about soil and the facts spoken or presented by him, it is a total garbage and it done purely as a publicity stunt so that people will start buying the so called blessed soil from him (??). Buying the blessed soil (whose soil is it anyway?) will save the soil from degrading? Poeple get to buy some soil samples blessed (!!??) by this conman and keep it in their homes and expect the soil is saved while he happily walks towards the bank laughing about people's stupidity!!! Really?? One has to blame everyone in the entire process. Not just the use of chemical fertilizers. Greed driven by demand, corporatization of essential commodities, globalization of govts and pure profit based approach is making the life on this beautiful planet a deteriorating hell! Sooner or later, it will become like the scenes of Wall-E movie where people abandon the planet and start to wander around for a better quality of life albeit with some differences. The propaganda should have been to stop using chemicals and pesticides, move towards organic method of farming and educating people about sustainable living and introducing technology guidance, reducing dependencies and a changed economic models... But it all sounds like Utopian wishes and might never come true on this godforsaken planet with the current set of population and people's mindset... HN is a fantastic community with great minds wandering across multitude of topics and I hope they don't buy into this BS!!!
- amriksohata 4y ago
  What nonsense, this man is well known, respected, what quantifies a con man? He is trying to save the environment. What a silly comment.
  - unmole 4y ago
    Forget respect. It's hard to take this clown seriously considering he's previously said things like: - Children should not be vaccinated for flu[0] - Depression is caused by overeating and lack of exercise[1] - Mercury can be solidified by energizing it and is not toxic[2] - Food turns to poison during an eclipse[3] - Cancer is not a disease[4] Like Save the Rivers and Cauvery Calling this is yet another PR campaign by Jaggi Vasudev. 0: https://web.archive.org/web/20200420202043/https://isha.sadh https://web.archive.org/web/20200420202043/https://isha.sadh... 1: https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/789658881135960064 https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/789658881135960064 2: https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/sadhguru/mystic/rasa-vaidya https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/sadhguru/mystic/rasa-vaidya 3: https://www.thestatesman.com/world/lunar-eclipse-2018-what-sadhguru-jaggi-vasudev-says-about-it-1502577063.html https://www.thestatesman.com/world/lunar-eclipse-2018-what-s... 4: https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/827780767010807809 https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/827780767010807809
- earljman 4y ago
  Why are you in so much pain?
  - indianmouse 4y ago
    Because of various reasons that requires privacy and security. You never know how these goons operate. They will hunt and haunt you. There is no freedom of speech in this country. They'll simply kill you. Period.
- vmurthy 4y ago
  > Wow! One of the biggest con man has made it to HN as well? Leaving aside whether you believe what he says, any citations on being a con man? Let alone the biggest con man? >For those who really worry about soil and the facts spoken or presented by him, it is a total garbage and it done purely as a publicity stunt so that people will start buying the so called blessed soil from him (??). Oh wow. That seems like the biggest publicity stunt, then , no? If heads of state are buying into this, this must be a very sophisticated plan. > Buying the blessed soil (whose soil is it anyway?) will save the soil from degrading? Poeple get to buy some soil samples blessed (!!??) by this conman and keep it in their homes and expect the soil is saved while he happily walks towards the bank laughing about people's stupidity!!! I didn't see a buy link in the web archive (the link is HN'ed), but perhaps you could enlighten us what you think he does with the money? > educating people about sustainable living and introducing technology guidance, reducing dependencies and a changed economic models You hit the nail on the head. This article seems to be about educating people about sustainable living and the dangers we humans pose to nature. Geniunely curious , what exactly are you so upset about? Sadhguru's teachings ? His article? Hidden agendas ?
ahamedirshad123 4y ago
Save the soil by burning a lot of oil. Save the soil by spoiling the elephant corridor and building the ashram. Save the soil by selling the soil on his website. Fraud Jaggi. Btw, he hates someone calling him Jaggi.
- indianmouse 4y ago
  Yep. He hates it to the core. Yet he is a Jaggi. Once a Jaggi, always a Jaggi. He wants everyone to address him as Sadhguru... Whatever that means it anyways!! Shame to the guru word!
throwawayjun21 4y ago
If we fail to save the only planet that we have, Our children will never forget us.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  > will never forget us Odd lapsus.
ajanuary 4y ago
I’d forgotten all about this. When my work started pushing save soil events I didn’t connect it until now. Does anyone have any good resources talking about how dangerous this organisation actually is that I can use to persuade my company to stop associating with them? Some Googling came up with [0] and [1] Also, what are some options for good organisations for us to pivot to? I don’t want to see all the genuine conversation energy and excitement by my colleagues go to waste. [0] https://redd-monitor.org/2022/05/27/sadhguru-how-not-to-save-soil/ https://redd-monitor.org/2022/05/27/sadhguru-how-not-to-save... [1] https://agrowingculture.medium.com/save-soil-won-t-save-us-89c12344c262 https://agrowingculture.medium.com/save-soil-won-t-save-us-8... [edit] redd-monitor is a bad source, so all the contents of that article should be taken with a huge grain of salt
aaron695 4y ago
gen_greyface 4y ago
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Isha_Institute_of_Inner_Sciences https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Isha_Institute_of_Inner_Scienc... Leaving this here.

30 points by dnetesn 4y ago

It's nice to see this inspiring global campaign getting wider and wider coverage.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220726030213/https://worldsensorium.com/save-the-soil/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220726030213/https://worldsens...

indianmouse 4y ago

Wow! One of the biggest con man has made it to HN as well? He is commoditizing soil and has found a new way to make money. For those who really worry about soil and the facts spoken or presented by him, it is a total garbage and it done purely as a publicity stunt so that people will start buying the so called blessed soil from him (??). Buying the blessed soil (whose soil is it anyway?) will save the soil from degrading? Poeple get to buy some soil samples blessed (!!??) by this conman and keep it in their homes and expect the soil is saved while he happily walks towards the bank laughing about people's stupidity!!! Really?? One has to blame everyone in the entire process. Not just the use of chemical fertilizers. Greed driven by demand, corporatization of essential commodities, globalization of govts and pure profit based approach is making the life on this beautiful planet a deteriorating hell! Sooner or later, it will become like the scenes of Wall-E movie where people abandon the planet and start to wander around for a better quality of life albeit with some differences. The propaganda should have been to stop using chemicals and pesticides, move towards organic method of farming and educating people about sustainable living and introducing technology guidance, reducing dependencies and a changed economic models... But it all sounds like Utopian wishes and might never come true on this godforsaken planet with the current set of population and people's mindset... HN is a fantastic community with great minds wandering across multitude of topics and I hope they don't buy into this BS!!!

amriksohata 4y ago
What nonsense, this man is well known, respected, what quantifies a con man? He is trying to save the environment. What a silly comment.
- unmole 4y ago
  Forget respect. It's hard to take this clown seriously considering he's previously said things like: - Children should not be vaccinated for flu[0] - Depression is caused by overeating and lack of exercise[1] - Mercury can be solidified by energizing it and is not toxic[2] - Food turns to poison during an eclipse[3] - Cancer is not a disease[4] Like Save the Rivers and Cauvery Calling this is yet another PR campaign by Jaggi Vasudev. 0: https://web.archive.org/web/20200420202043/https://isha.sadh https://web.archive.org/web/20200420202043/https://isha.sadh... 1: https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/789658881135960064 https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/789658881135960064 2: https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/sadhguru/mystic/rasa-vaidya https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/sadhguru/mystic/rasa-vaidya 3: https://www.thestatesman.com/world/lunar-eclipse-2018-what-sadhguru-jaggi-vasudev-says-about-it-1502577063.html https://www.thestatesman.com/world/lunar-eclipse-2018-what-s... 4: https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/827780767010807809 https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/827780767010807809
earljman 4y ago
Why are you in so much pain?
- indianmouse 4y ago
  Because of various reasons that requires privacy and security. You never know how these goons operate. They will hunt and haunt you. There is no freedom of speech in this country. They'll simply kill you. Period.
vmurthy 4y ago
> Wow! One of the biggest con man has made it to HN as well? Leaving aside whether you believe what he says, any citations on being a con man? Let alone the biggest con man? >For those who really worry about soil and the facts spoken or presented by him, it is a total garbage and it done purely as a publicity stunt so that people will start buying the so called blessed soil from him (??). Oh wow. That seems like the biggest publicity stunt, then , no? If heads of state are buying into this, this must be a very sophisticated plan. > Buying the blessed soil (whose soil is it anyway?) will save the soil from degrading? Poeple get to buy some soil samples blessed (!!??) by this conman and keep it in their homes and expect the soil is saved while he happily walks towards the bank laughing about people's stupidity!!! I didn't see a buy link in the web archive (the link is HN'ed), but perhaps you could enlighten us what you think he does with the money? > educating people about sustainable living and introducing technology guidance, reducing dependencies and a changed economic models You hit the nail on the head. This article seems to be about educating people about sustainable living and the dangers we humans pose to nature. Geniunely curious , what exactly are you so upset about? Sadhguru's teachings ? His article? Hidden agendas ?

ahamedirshad123 4y ago

Save the soil by burning a lot of oil. Save the soil by spoiling the elephant corridor and building the ashram. Save the soil by selling the soil on his website. Fraud Jaggi. Btw, he hates someone calling him Jaggi.

indianmouse 4y ago
Yep. He hates it to the core. Yet he is a Jaggi. Once a Jaggi, always a Jaggi. He wants everyone to address him as Sadhguru... Whatever that means it anyways!! Shame to the guru word!

throwawayjun21 4y ago

If we fail to save the only planet that we have, Our children will never forget us.

mdp2021 4y ago
> will never forget us Odd lapsus.

ajanuary 4y ago

I’d forgotten all about this. When my work started pushing save soil events I didn’t connect it until now. Does anyone have any good resources talking about how dangerous this organisation actually is that I can use to persuade my company to stop associating with them? Some Googling came up with [0] and [1] Also, what are some options for good organisations for us to pivot to? I don’t want to see all the genuine conversation energy and excitement by my colleagues go to waste. [0] https://redd-monitor.org/2022/05/27/sadhguru-how-not-to-save-soil/ https://redd-monitor.org/2022/05/27/sadhguru-how-not-to-save... [1] https://agrowingculture.medium.com/save-soil-won-t-save-us-89c12344c262 https://agrowingculture.medium.com/save-soil-won-t-save-us-8... [edit] redd-monitor is a bad source, so all the contents of that article should be taken with a huge grain of salt

aaron695 4y ago

gen_greyface 4y ago

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Isha_Institute_of_Inner_Sciences https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Isha_Institute_of_Inner_Scienc... Leaving this here.