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As I read it, they are searching for a free service. AFAIK Sourcehut is only free currently because it is in alpha stage. So it will cost at least $20/year in

As I read it, they are searching for a free service. AFAIK Sourcehut is only free currently because it is in alpha stage. So it will cost at least $20/year in the future. (Which is still way cheaper than GitLabs Premium plan, but still: it isn't "free") I don't think people think enough about that fact. Sourcehut is not a "free" alternative if you plan long term. I think something like codeberg.org would be a real "free" alternative. Because Codeberg - as a non-profit - doesn't plan to sell anything in the future.

ddevault 4y ago
This comes with some caveats: - It's always affordable; if you cannot pay for any reason then you'll be given free service. - Payment is not required to contribute to projects, just to host them. - Paying for SourceHut makes more sense than paying for other platforms. The money stays in FOSS and keeps the platform accountable to its users, not its investors. Choosing a free service means that you're subject to someone else's demands -- that is, whoever is actually footing your bill. pmOS is already aware of this, in fact they're already paying to use the CI service. Still: it's important for new users to understand this. Everyone who signs up is sent a welcome email which lays out these details.
forgotpwd16 4y ago
>they are searching for a free service Free as in beer or as in freedom? In podcast they say that GL isn't entirely open source and they don't like that they're using some proprietary features of it.
- O__________O 4y ago
  Both, article mentions: (1) “After gitlab.com's recent changes to the free tier, we have been seriously reconsidering if gitlab.com is still the best development platform for postmarketOS.” (2) “SourceHut is a great match for the postmarketOS principles: AGPL licensed, no Open-core model; ...”
- seanw444 4y ago
  Correct. Free doesn't mean free of cost in Sourcehut's sense. Running a service like that, that scales, is hard when you don't make much money. They have every right to charge for usage of the main site. The cool part is that the entirety of the platform can be self-hosted, and nothing's hidden from you. It's also super minimal compared to GitLab.
distantsounds 4y ago
As I read it, you are searching for pedantry wherever you can find it. I don't think you think enough about this fact. For a large open-source project, $20 a year is about as close as "free" as one can get.

ddevault 4y ago

This comes with some caveats: - It's always affordable; if you cannot pay for any reason then you'll be given free service. - Payment is not required to contribute to projects, just to host them. - Paying for SourceHut makes more sense than paying for other platforms. The money stays in FOSS and keeps the platform accountable to its users, not its investors. Choosing a free service means that you're subject to someone else's demands -- that is, whoever is actually footing your bill. pmOS is already aware of this, in fact they're already paying to use the CI service. Still: it's important for new users to understand this. Everyone who signs up is sent a welcome email which lays out these details.

forgotpwd16 4y ago

>they are searching for a free service Free as in beer or as in freedom? In podcast they say that GL isn't entirely open source and they don't like that they're using some proprietary features of it.

O__________O 4y ago
Both, article mentions: (1) “After gitlab.com's recent changes to the free tier, we have been seriously reconsidering if gitlab.com is still the best development platform for postmarketOS.” (2) “SourceHut is a great match for the postmarketOS principles: AGPL licensed, no Open-core model; ...”
seanw444 4y ago
Correct. Free doesn't mean free of cost in Sourcehut's sense. Running a service like that, that scales, is hard when you don't make much money. They have every right to charge for usage of the main site. The cool part is that the entirety of the platform can be self-hosted, and nothing's hidden from you. It's also super minimal compared to GitLab.

distantsounds 4y ago

As I read it, you are searching for pedantry wherever you can find it. I don't think you think enough about this fact. For a large open-source project, $20 a year is about as close as "free" as one can get.