4 ms·

Well, dystopian winter (October-March) in Scandinavia has many cities with no sunlight for weeks at a time due to latitude and weather, so some really good arti

by marvin 4y ago

Well, dystopian winter (October-March) in Scandinavia has many cities with no sunlight for weeks at a time due to latitude and weather, so some really good artificial lights would definitely be welcome.

nextlevelwizard 4y ago
It isn't that bad. The area that is without sun for weeks is pretty small and there aren't many people living there, so trying to build a company to catch that market is suspicious at best. For rest of the country the main concern is the shorter days - meaning you can easily go to work before sun comes up and leave work just as sun is going down. But during working hours there is plenty of light even if the day is cloudy since snow is very reflective. I see the main problem with the designs OP posted that they are just LED panels mounted on a wall. You don't get the same feeling of being in the sun when the light is not directional. You might as well just have one of the "bright light lamps" on your desk that have been sold for decades to combat "sunlessness".
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  I don't know about Scandinavia, but even in Paris, France, there can be weeks during the winter when the sky is mostly covered, and you get next to no light. I used to live in an apartment with huge windows, west-oriented, and no other building close by, and I still went out and bought a big ass LED light for working from home in winter. It made a huge difference to my mood.
  - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
    I live in Scandinavia. I'm not from Scandinavia - I moved here in my 30s. And trust me, even overcast days bring light. It simply isn't as bright as you desire. Lots of folks would rather have more light when it is cloudy. It definitely isn't going to compare to a month of 4-hour-long days with the sun staying low in the sky. Further south, I've seen cloudy days brighter than a sunny day in December where I*m currently living.
- mongol 4y ago
  Latitiude AND weather. December 2020 Stockholm had 4 hours of sun for the entire month.
  - marvin 4y ago
    2007 West Norway had an exceptional autumn, but that year I don’t remember seeing the sun between approximately September 15th and December 15th. It might have broken through at some point when I was inside, but it was raining every single day.
    - mongol 4y ago
      That sounds so depressing. Especially in the later part of the year, the sun is weak as it is, so what is diffused through the clouds is barley enough to lift the mood.
- checkyoursudo 4y ago
  I once went an entire Oct/Nov in northern Sweden seeing the sun only for maybe a couple of hours total per week because the weather was so dreary any time I was able to go outside during the day and given how short the days are in the winter. Some days, the moon provided more light (as you say, because of snow reflection) than the sun. Those can be some very depressing days ... weeks ... months.
- iakov 4y ago
  I live in Prague, in central Europe. During winter and autumn months the sun goes down around 16:00. People who work normal 9-to-5 hours essentially don't get any sunlight outside. Waking up in the morning in darkness sucks, leaving office in darkness sucks even more. I'd welcome some sort of automated, artificial light source at my home office during those five months.
  - KptMarchewa 4y ago
    Warsaw is very similar to Prague but even worse. There are 29 average sunshine hours in whole December - less than in Stockholm. That means that even if you have 8 hours of "daylight" in a day, less than one hour is when you see the sun.
- marvin 4y ago
  It’s pretty bad, dude. West Norway in November; sunrise at 08:40 and sunset at 16:10. 1.2 feet of rainfall on average. 20 days of rain on average, and 20 hours of sunlight. This is far south of the Arctic Circle! Sure, it’s not a market of millions, but that wasn’t my point. If you’re prone to seasonal depression, you’ll want a daylight lamp. Thankfully, those are available!

by marvin 4y ago

nextlevelwizard 4y ago

It isn't that bad. The area that is without sun for weeks is pretty small and there aren't many people living there, so trying to build a company to catch that market is suspicious at best. For rest of the country the main concern is the shorter days - meaning you can easily go to work before sun comes up and leave work just as sun is going down. But during working hours there is plenty of light even if the day is cloudy since snow is very reflective. I see the main problem with the designs OP posted that they are just LED panels mounted on a wall. You don't get the same feeling of being in the sun when the light is not directional. You might as well just have one of the "bright light lamps" on your desk that have been sold for decades to combat "sunlessness".

vladvasiliu 4y ago
I don't know about Scandinavia, but even in Paris, France, there can be weeks during the winter when the sky is mostly covered, and you get next to no light. I used to live in an apartment with huge windows, west-oriented, and no other building close by, and I still went out and bought a big ass LED light for working from home in winter. It made a huge difference to my mood.
- Broken_Hippo 4y ago
  I live in Scandinavia. I'm not from Scandinavia - I moved here in my 30s. And trust me, even overcast days bring light. It simply isn't as bright as you desire. Lots of folks would rather have more light when it is cloudy. It definitely isn't going to compare to a month of 4-hour-long days with the sun staying low in the sky. Further south, I've seen cloudy days brighter than a sunny day in December where I*m currently living.
mongol 4y ago
Latitiude AND weather. December 2020 Stockholm had 4 hours of sun for the entire month.
- marvin 4y ago
  2007 West Norway had an exceptional autumn, but that year I don’t remember seeing the sun between approximately September 15th and December 15th. It might have broken through at some point when I was inside, but it was raining every single day.
  - mongol 4y ago
    That sounds so depressing. Especially in the later part of the year, the sun is weak as it is, so what is diffused through the clouds is barley enough to lift the mood.
checkyoursudo 4y ago
I once went an entire Oct/Nov in northern Sweden seeing the sun only for maybe a couple of hours total per week because the weather was so dreary any time I was able to go outside during the day and given how short the days are in the winter. Some days, the moon provided more light (as you say, because of snow reflection) than the sun. Those can be some very depressing days ... weeks ... months.
iakov 4y ago
I live in Prague, in central Europe. During winter and autumn months the sun goes down around 16:00. People who work normal 9-to-5 hours essentially don't get any sunlight outside. Waking up in the morning in darkness sucks, leaving office in darkness sucks even more. I'd welcome some sort of automated, artificial light source at my home office during those five months.
- KptMarchewa 4y ago
  Warsaw is very similar to Prague but even worse. There are 29 average sunshine hours in whole December - less than in Stockholm. That means that even if you have 8 hours of "daylight" in a day, less than one hour is when you see the sun.
marvin 4y ago
It’s pretty bad, dude. West Norway in November; sunrise at 08:40 and sunset at 16:10. 1.2 feet of rainfall on average. 20 days of rain on average, and 20 hours of sunlight. This is far south of the Arctic Circle! Sure, it’s not a market of millions, but that wasn’t my point. If you’re prone to seasonal depression, you’ll want a daylight lamp. Thankfully, those are available!