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> However, popular cheats aren’t malware, so they can’t do that It is a rather popular practice to bundle things like discord token stealers amongst cheat deve

> However, popular cheats aren’t malware, so they can’t do that It is a rather popular practice to bundle things like discord token stealers amongst cheat developers to find people acting against them. While more uncommon, it isn't unheard of shipping a whole RAT alongside with the cheat. > It’s a lost battle anyway, DMA cheats keep getting better every day. They will inevitably render clientside anticheat obsolete. If an anti-cheat manages to stop all client-side cheating - it has already won. Requiring a hardware device to be shipped / being unable to start cheating right after a quick online purchase will deter most of the people that are considering purchasing cheats.

prvit 4y ago
> If an anti-cheat manages to stop all client-side cheating - it has already won. Requiring a hardware device to be shipped / being unable to start cheating right after a quick online purchase will deter most of the people that are considering purchasing cheats No anticheat, kernel mode or not, has come even close to that. The situation has remained mostly unchanged for at least a decade now. It’s the cheat developers who have an opportunity to seriously demoralize anticheat developers, not the other way around. The proliferation of DMA cheats will make any time spent fighting software based cheating significantly less valuable.
- musjleman 4y ago
  > No anticheat, kernel mode or not, has come even close to that. The situation has remained mostly unchanged for at least a decade now. While the situation has mostly "unchanged" from the perspective of the end-user, the barrier of entry to start making cheats has been raised quite a bit. I'd say making a commercially viable cheat (assuming you actually care about your customers not getting hit by every ban wave) isn't exactly a trivial matter nowadays. > The proliferation of DMA cheats will make any time spent fighting software based cheating significantly less valuable. The future you talk about is not yet here. External device based cheats are a miniscule part of the current cheating market.

prvit 4y ago

> If an anti-cheat manages to stop all client-side cheating - it has already won. Requiring a hardware device to be shipped / being unable to start cheating right after a quick online purchase will deter most of the people that are considering purchasing cheats No anticheat, kernel mode or not, has come even close to that. The situation has remained mostly unchanged for at least a decade now. It’s the cheat developers who have an opportunity to seriously demoralize anticheat developers, not the other way around. The proliferation of DMA cheats will make any time spent fighting software based cheating significantly less valuable.

musjleman 4y ago
> No anticheat, kernel mode or not, has come even close to that. The situation has remained mostly unchanged for at least a decade now. While the situation has mostly "unchanged" from the perspective of the end-user, the barrier of entry to start making cheats has been raised quite a bit. I'd say making a commercially viable cheat (assuming you actually care about your customers not getting hit by every ban wave) isn't exactly a trivial matter nowadays. > The proliferation of DMA cheats will make any time spent fighting software based cheating significantly less valuable. The future you talk about is not yet here. External device based cheats are a miniscule part of the current cheating market.