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> This isn’t giving us any surveillance capability we didn’t already have. I think this is an important line. Regardless of how people feel about anti-cheating

> This isn’t giving us any surveillance capability we didn’t already have. I think this is an important line. Regardless of how people feel about anti-cheating efforts, I don't believe many people realize how much access games already have to their system to the point where it's kind of a miracle there aren't more malicious games out in the wild.

ivegotnoaccount 4y ago
Why limit your argument to games? All softwares that are ran without sandbox sadly have this issue. Any software could be malicious, not only games.
lalopalota 4y ago
Games? You mean literally every piece of software on (most) computers? Most default Windows, Linux, Mac single user setups are vulnerable to having everything be intercepted/exfiltrated by every program installed. Why would games be of concern specifically?
- judge2020 4y ago
  Unless someone is 'that friend' that always tries to download shady programs and has tons of malicious extensions (previously toolbars) installed, I imagine most people are naive to the amount of potential harm desktop software can do; using common sense when browsing and sticking to typical programs (for games, Steam/third party big-name publishers' launchers) is very low-risk, so eventually you forget that any program could be stealing your browser cookies in an instant. Discord currently has this problem[0] where people send DMs stating 'will you playtest my game' and that exe just steals the user's stored Discord login token and uses it to proliferate the scam to more people, and/or uses the token to buy tons of gifted nitro. 0: https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/s1f1vs/the_recent_try_my_game_discord_scam_explained/ https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/s1f1vs/the_rece...
- PaulsWallet 4y ago
  Because games are generally thought of as harmless. Most people aware a rogue piece of productivity software or something can cause them issues. Games, for whatever reason, don't get that same consideration.

ivegotnoaccount 4y ago

Why limit your argument to games? All softwares that are ran without sandbox sadly have this issue. Any software could be malicious, not only games.

lalopalota 4y ago

Games? You mean literally every piece of software on (most) computers? Most default Windows, Linux, Mac single user setups are vulnerable to having everything be intercepted/exfiltrated by every program installed. Why would games be of concern specifically?

judge2020 4y ago
Unless someone is 'that friend' that always tries to download shady programs and has tons of malicious extensions (previously toolbars) installed, I imagine most people are naive to the amount of potential harm desktop software can do; using common sense when browsing and sticking to typical programs (for games, Steam/third party big-name publishers' launchers) is very low-risk, so eventually you forget that any program could be stealing your browser cookies in an instant. Discord currently has this problem[0] where people send DMs stating 'will you playtest my game' and that exe just steals the user's stored Discord login token and uses it to proliferate the scam to more people, and/or uses the token to buy tons of gifted nitro. 0: https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/s1f1vs/the_recent_try_my_game_discord_scam_explained/ https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/s1f1vs/the_rece...
PaulsWallet 4y ago
Because games are generally thought of as harmless. Most people aware a rogue piece of productivity software or something can cause them issues. Games, for whatever reason, don't get that same consideration.