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Report: Google has made a bid for Sunday Ticket

33 points by orionion 4y ago

orionion 4y ago
#$%! Pay wall link: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streaming-rights.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streami...
digdugdirk 4y ago
https://archive.ph/20220724184255/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streaming-rights.html https://archive.ph/20220724184255/https://www.nytimes.com/20...
elif 4y ago
I guess now that they cost as much as cable they have to become cable to keep up.
listenallyall 4y ago
According to the New York Times, Google has made a bid Seems like you should take the Florio attribution out of the headline, since he is not the one breaking the news, just repeating it (as usual).
cglong 4y ago
> Apple, per the Times, remains the perceived frontrunner. CEO Tim Cook has met with league officials, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, and Patriots owner Robert Kraft regarding Sunday Ticket. The Times writes that Apple "has made winning the package a priority." Apple keeps investing so much into exclusivity deals and extended free trials to try to boost usage, and yet the only people I've ever seen recommending Apple TV+ content are those in the Apple blogosphere. EDIT: Ted Lasso probably came closest to mainstream acceptance and yet... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore/TIMESERIES/1658697600?hl=en-US&tz=240&date=2020-08-14+2022-07-24&geo=US&q=%2Fg%2F11jmxk7kxl,%2Fm%2F0131ln7y&sni=3 https://trends.google.com/trends/explore/TIMESERIES/16586976...
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- sem000 4y ago
  Huh? I don’t watch sports but Apple Original series are some of the best TV right now.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    Like what? Might be my bubble but I've literally heard more about an offshoot of a basically dead franchise (House of the Dragon) than about anything out of Apple.
    - umeshunni 4y ago
      For all Mankind - probably the best scifi show right now.
      - deleted 4y ago
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      - throwntoday 4y ago
        It's not saying much to be honest. I find myself fast forwarding through any scenes that don't take place off planet. Severance, Dr. Brain, Defending Jacob, and WeCrashed were the only good shows I found on Apple TV+. That said those are all extremely good.
        umeshunni 4y ago
        > I find myself fast forwarding through any scenes that don't take place off planet. Hah, yes. I would also have preferred more space scenes and less family drama and office politics.
    - simonw 4y ago
      Severance is one of the best TV shows I've seen in years.
brokenodometer 4y ago
I subscribe to YouTube TV but I hope Apple wins because YouTube TV is compressed to garbage bitrate 720p and Apple TV+ is not.
jmull 4y ago
Apple, Google, Amazon, Disney... The NFL is about to get paid. Teams should be trying to lock up key players with long term contracts, and shouldn't blink at big dollars to do it. The salary cap is going to explode and we'll be marveling at teams that are paying only $45M a year for a top-10 QB.
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AaronFriel 4y ago
Here's what the budget-phone, non-laptop owning masses can look forward to if Apple has the Sunday Ticket: * First, install Apple Music on your phone. If you don't have a smartphone, you might just be out of luck here. * Sign up for or create an Apple ID in Apple Music. Yes, Apple Music, even though you want TV. * Start an Apple Music trial. * Log in to the Apple TV app using your account, now that you have a valid account that will let you sign in. * Use the Apple TV app to upgrade your account to Apple TV+ * Cancel your Apple Music Trial. This is... absurd? I hope that the product folks are on top of this if they acquire the Sunday Ticket. For the record, this is the advice currently on 9to5mac.com and is how I subscribed to watch Foundation on Android TV.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  Why would they change it if you follow through with it?
  - AaronFriel 4y ago
    Why should products be easy to use?
    - listenallyall 4y ago
      Honestly that is a good question for the NFL. Why was Sunday Ticket not available on cable systems? Why are great games often blacked out in favor of a "local" team's games (even when local may mean another state or hundreds of miles away)? Why does RedZone have a hard cutoff at 8pm even if overtime games are still in play?
  - civilized 4y ago
    Because I didn't and never will.
- wtallis 4y ago
  Why are you recommending such a circuitous method involving an unrelated phone app when simply trying to access Apple TV in a web browser will lead you to the link to create an Apple ID—whether that browser is on a phone or not?
RichardCNormos 4y ago
Google would be able to prevent you from watching football because they don't like your political views. This is a worrisome development, and it's entirely within the realm of possibility. Imagine getting your Google account suspended because you uploaded a video that YouTube decided was "misinformation", or you wrote a document in Google Docs that contains unacceptable text in Google's mind, or you wrote a particularly spicy comment somewhere. They shut down your account, and there's no way to appeal the decision, or even speak to someone at Google to find out what you've done wrong. As a result, the only way you'd be able to watch football from that day forward is to go to a friend's house or sports bar. Although perhaps this is exactly what needs to happen to bring this problem into the national consciousness.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  Google doesn’t care about political views. Just what makes them the most money. Too much victimizing amongst some people. If Google was actually on the left or liberal why would they time me again do shady anti consumer/customer stuff with their ads and why did they collude with anti poaching? most people are apolitical or in the middle. Those people are who Google is appeasing. So Google is harsher with people to the extreme. Regardless of which side you’re on.
nyjah 4y ago
Random fun fact about the origin story behind NFL Sunday Ticket is that it was aided in creation by Jon Taffer, the guy thats famous for Bar Rescue. He was the sports bar operator of the year in the 1990's and then was approached by a satellite communications company and came up with a plan to present to the NFL. NFL liked the idea so much they decided to do it on their own and put Jon Taffer on the advisory board. if you want to learn more.. https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2021/10/10/did-you-know-that-jon-taffer-of-bar-rescue-invented-nfl-sunday-ticket/ https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2021/10/10/did-you-know-that-jon...
rocmcd 4y ago
Assuming this goes through (whether it’s Apple, Google, Amazon, or whoever), I could see this becoming a cultural tipping point where your ‘average American’ sees the encroachment of big tech into ‘everyday American’ things - more than ever before. All cultural interactions will now be dominated by big tech, whether it’s sports, film, music, or literally anything they see through a screen.

33 points by orionion 4y ago

#$%! Pay wall link: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streaming-rights.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streami...

digdugdirk 4y ago

https://archive.ph/20220724184255/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streaming-rights.html https://archive.ph/20220724184255/https://www.nytimes.com/20...

elif 4y ago

I guess now that they cost as much as cable they have to become cable to keep up.

listenallyall 4y ago

According to the New York Times, Google has made a bid Seems like you should take the Florio attribution out of the headline, since he is not the one breaking the news, just repeating it (as usual).

cglong 4y ago

> Apple, per the Times, remains the perceived frontrunner. CEO Tim Cook has met with league officials, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, and Patriots owner Robert Kraft regarding Sunday Ticket. The Times writes that Apple "has made winning the package a priority." Apple keeps investing so much into exclusivity deals and extended free trials to try to boost usage, and yet the only people I've ever seen recommending Apple TV+ content are those in the Apple blogosphere. EDIT: Ted Lasso probably came closest to mainstream acceptance and yet... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore/TIMESERIES/1658697600?hl=en-US&tz=240&date=2020-08-14+2022-07-24&geo=US&q=%2Fg%2F11jmxk7kxl,%2Fm%2F0131ln7y&sni=3 https://trends.google.com/trends/explore/TIMESERIES/16586976...

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sem000 4y ago
Huh? I don’t watch sports but Apple Original series are some of the best TV right now.
- sofixa 4y ago
  Like what? Might be my bubble but I've literally heard more about an offshoot of a basically dead franchise (House of the Dragon) than about anything out of Apple.
  - umeshunni 4y ago
    For all Mankind - probably the best scifi show right now.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - throwntoday 4y ago
      It's not saying much to be honest. I find myself fast forwarding through any scenes that don't take place off planet. Severance, Dr. Brain, Defending Jacob, and WeCrashed were the only good shows I found on Apple TV+. That said those are all extremely good.
      - umeshunni 4y ago
        > I find myself fast forwarding through any scenes that don't take place off planet. Hah, yes. I would also have preferred more space scenes and less family drama and office politics.
  - simonw 4y ago
    Severance is one of the best TV shows I've seen in years.

brokenodometer 4y ago

I subscribe to YouTube TV but I hope Apple wins because YouTube TV is compressed to garbage bitrate 720p and Apple TV+ is not.

jmull 4y ago

Apple, Google, Amazon, Disney... The NFL is about to get paid. Teams should be trying to lock up key players with long term contracts, and shouldn't blink at big dollars to do it. The salary cap is going to explode and we'll be marveling at teams that are paying only $45M a year for a top-10 QB.

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AaronFriel 4y ago

Here's what the budget-phone, non-laptop owning masses can look forward to if Apple has the Sunday Ticket: * First, install Apple Music on your phone. If you don't have a smartphone, you might just be out of luck here. * Sign up for or create an Apple ID in Apple Music. Yes, Apple Music, even though you want TV. * Start an Apple Music trial. * Log in to the Apple TV app using your account, now that you have a valid account that will let you sign in. * Use the Apple TV app to upgrade your account to Apple TV+ * Cancel your Apple Music Trial. This is... absurd? I hope that the product folks are on top of this if they acquire the Sunday Ticket. For the record, this is the advice currently on 9to5mac.com and is how I subscribed to watch Foundation on Android TV.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
Why would they change it if you follow through with it?
- AaronFriel 4y ago
  Why should products be easy to use?
  - listenallyall 4y ago
    Honestly that is a good question for the NFL. Why was Sunday Ticket not available on cable systems? Why are great games often blacked out in favor of a "local" team's games (even when local may mean another state or hundreds of miles away)? Why does RedZone have a hard cutoff at 8pm even if overtime games are still in play?
- civilized 4y ago
  Because I didn't and never will.
wtallis 4y ago
Why are you recommending such a circuitous method involving an unrelated phone app when simply trying to access Apple TV in a web browser will lead you to the link to create an Apple ID—whether that browser is on a phone or not?

RichardCNormos 4y ago

Google would be able to prevent you from watching football because they don't like your political views. This is a worrisome development, and it's entirely within the realm of possibility. Imagine getting your Google account suspended because you uploaded a video that YouTube decided was "misinformation", or you wrote a document in Google Docs that contains unacceptable text in Google's mind, or you wrote a particularly spicy comment somewhere. They shut down your account, and there's no way to appeal the decision, or even speak to someone at Google to find out what you've done wrong. As a result, the only way you'd be able to watch football from that day forward is to go to a friend's house or sports bar. Although perhaps this is exactly what needs to happen to bring this problem into the national consciousness.

skinnymuch 4y ago
Google doesn’t care about political views. Just what makes them the most money. Too much victimizing amongst some people. If Google was actually on the left or liberal why would they time me again do shady anti consumer/customer stuff with their ads and why did they collude with anti poaching? most people are apolitical or in the middle. Those people are who Google is appeasing. So Google is harsher with people to the extreme. Regardless of which side you’re on.

nyjah 4y ago

Random fun fact about the origin story behind NFL Sunday Ticket is that it was aided in creation by Jon Taffer, the guy thats famous for Bar Rescue. He was the sports bar operator of the year in the 1990's and then was approached by a satellite communications company and came up with a plan to present to the NFL. NFL liked the idea so much they decided to do it on their own and put Jon Taffer on the advisory board. if you want to learn more.. https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2021/10/10/did-you-know-that-jon-taffer-of-bar-rescue-invented-nfl-sunday-ticket/ https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2021/10/10/did-you-know-that-jon...

rocmcd 4y ago

Assuming this goes through (whether it’s Apple, Google, Amazon, or whoever), I could see this becoming a cultural tipping point where your ‘average American’ sees the encroachment of big tech into ‘everyday American’ things - more than ever before. All cultural interactions will now be dominated by big tech, whether it’s sports, film, music, or literally anything they see through a screen.