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Well, we had it all - initial original covid variant, first omicron variant, and last week either of these sub-variants. All came from small kids, so it really

Well, we had it all - initial original covid variant, first omicron variant, and last week either of these sub-variants. All came from small kids, so it really didn't matter at all what precautions and social distancing we adults did. Kids still went to kindergarten with 15 other, plus all teachers. First one was by far the worst - fever, tiredness, sleeplessness, a lot of mucus in the throat, loss of smell and taste (was smelling 52% alcohol and it was like mountain air). Even few months after ie my cologne smelled foul. Smell turned OK in cca 6 months. Second was only (a lot of) mucus in the throat, and resulting dry cough. Third now was barely noticeable, again only mucus in the throat. The only reason we did tests were because we got clearly infected from sister-in-law's kids visiting who upon coming home had 40 degrees celzius fever. I don't mind this level of covid for myself, much more preferable than proper flu or even intense sore throat. But others around me fared less well - some kids having very high fever where you start having concerns about spasms and Kawasaki syndrome. My wife had headaches, developed some sore points in her mouth, from which she got ear aches etc. Everybody seems to push whole covid saga away from their minds (me including), but its not going anywhere, probably ever. Thanx to Ukraine invasion by russia focus of concerns shifted, it seems its too much to worry about 2 dreadful things in parallel.

celdon25 4y ago
>2 dreadful things in parallel. You sure it's just two? :)
colechristensen 4y ago
Covid isn’t dreadful any more, just another of many diseases. It is evolving the way it was expected to by everyone but the doomsayers.
- terminatornet 4y ago
  The 7 day average of hospitalizations in the US is 10,000 higher than it was last year at the start of the delta surge. Seems pretty dreadful to me!
- notafraudster 4y ago
  Based on present death rates, COVID will be number three for all cause mortality in the United States this year after all combined cancers and all combined heart disease -- possibly number two!; above all other infectious disease by an order of magnitude; above diabetes, COPD, organ damage, etc. This is despite a low overall mortality rate from COVID per infection. It is possible that as it continues to be endemic the rates will tick down and so this will not necessarily be true in 2023, 2024, 2025, etc. I am not proposing any policy change or any lockout or anything. but your position is a little bit like saying "a rocket launcher is a weapon, just like a bread knife". Put another way: a 9/11 every week, still. It would at least behoove us to be sombre about the bloodbath around us.
  - tlogan 4y ago
    As far as I know the data currently includes also people who died with COVID (not because of COVID). We will need to wait a few years to parse all this data and get the actual number.
    - bonzini 4y ago
      No, that's not true. It may be true if you consider hospitalizations: sometimes people with mild or no COVID symptoms count as COVID hospitalizations because 1) they do need to be in the hospital for something unrelated but 2) they must be kept in a COVID ward until they're not infectious anymore. However, death cause is not COVID if the hospital finds that you are positive after a car accident and you die of the injuries the day after. And if you were already say very very old or with comorbidities, and you die of pneumonia with a positive COVID test, then maybe you would have died anyway in a couple months, but still the immediate cause of death is COVID and nothing else makes sense.
      - ipaddr 4y ago
        The reclassification of any deaths that could be attributed to covid was happening in the spring and before.
- Marazan 4y ago
  The early major variants Alpha and Delta were both more infectious and at least as deadly if not more so. We fluked it with Omicron.
djfobbz 4y ago

celdon25 4y ago

>2 dreadful things in parallel. You sure it's just two? :)

colechristensen 4y ago

Covid isn’t dreadful any more, just another of many diseases. It is evolving the way it was expected to by everyone but the doomsayers.

terminatornet 4y ago
The 7 day average of hospitalizations in the US is 10,000 higher than it was last year at the start of the delta surge. Seems pretty dreadful to me!
notafraudster 4y ago
Based on present death rates, COVID will be number three for all cause mortality in the United States this year after all combined cancers and all combined heart disease -- possibly number two!; above all other infectious disease by an order of magnitude; above diabetes, COPD, organ damage, etc. This is despite a low overall mortality rate from COVID per infection. It is possible that as it continues to be endemic the rates will tick down and so this will not necessarily be true in 2023, 2024, 2025, etc. I am not proposing any policy change or any lockout or anything. but your position is a little bit like saying "a rocket launcher is a weapon, just like a bread knife". Put another way: a 9/11 every week, still. It would at least behoove us to be sombre about the bloodbath around us.
- tlogan 4y ago
  As far as I know the data currently includes also people who died with COVID (not because of COVID). We will need to wait a few years to parse all this data and get the actual number.
  - bonzini 4y ago
    No, that's not true. It may be true if you consider hospitalizations: sometimes people with mild or no COVID symptoms count as COVID hospitalizations because 1) they do need to be in the hospital for something unrelated but 2) they must be kept in a COVID ward until they're not infectious anymore. However, death cause is not COVID if the hospital finds that you are positive after a car accident and you die of the injuries the day after. And if you were already say very very old or with comorbidities, and you die of pneumonia with a positive COVID test, then maybe you would have died anyway in a couple months, but still the immediate cause of death is COVID and nothing else makes sense.
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      The reclassification of any deaths that could be attributed to covid was happening in the spring and before.
Marazan 4y ago
The early major variants Alpha and Delta were both more infectious and at least as deadly if not more so. We fluked it with Omicron.

djfobbz 4y ago