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"The results revealed a twofold phenomenon. Among men, a higher frequency of porn use and increased porn use over time were associated with lower levels of sexu

"The results revealed a twofold phenomenon. Among men, a higher frequency of porn use and increased porn use over time were associated with lower levels of sexual self-competence, impaired sexual functioning, and decreased partner-reported sexual satisfaction. In contrast, among women, higher and increasing frequencies of porn use were associated with higher levels of sexual self-competence, improved sexual functioning, and enhanced partner-reported sexual satisfaction (for some aspects)."

jinjin2 4y ago
Interesting paradoxical conclusion: “The findings reveal the irony that porn – a male-dominated industry that targets a male-dominated audience – is associated with the erosion of the quality of men's sex lives and the improvement of women's sex lives.”
- matbatt38 4y ago
  If the metric is partner-reported sexual satisfaction, it seems more likely to me that women's porn consumption increases men's sex life. It stills works in that direction
- what-imright 4y ago
  Yea that sentence shows a bias. Very shady
- superb-owl 4y ago
  I think this actually makes a lot of sense. Porn is engineered to suit men's desires and tastes, rather than women's. Watching it teaches both groups to accept norms that are preferential to men. If you're a (hetero) man, this makes you a more selfish partner and vice versa for a woman.
  - fold3 4y ago
    Exactly my thoughts. Meanwhile, I think more straight cismen should read the sex section of women magazines (ELLE, Marie-Claire, etc) to get the basics of what women likes and wants.
  - canjobear 4y ago
    While this makes sense, it's not convincing to me because it seems that similar logic could be applied even if the observed results were the opposite. Ie if porn increased men's performance and decreased women's performance, that could also be explained from porn teaching norms that are preferential to men.
  - numpad0 4y ago
    Porn properly engineered to suit men’s desires suck. This is just my experience but they don’t work. Good porn has female audiences or are sometimes even authored by cis female person even when the product is classified as “for men”. I don’t know if opposite is true as well but this “porn is men’s thing made by men” don’t seem factual. Sorry if I’ll be somehow offending trans or cat people by saying this, but not everyone has a concrete gender identification above life and always prefixing their thoughts with that.
  - dehugger 4y ago
    I think this theory falls flat based on the conversations I've had with other women about this. I don't know a single woman that enjoys watching content geared towards heterosexual men. Of the ones that do watch (as opposed to reading erotica, which is far more prevalent) they almost exclusively go to niche sites/genres intended to appeal to women, or they watch amateur content.
- numpad0 4y ago
  > a male-dominated industry that targets a male-dominated audience Or this isn't reflecting the reality as we would think it is
User23 4y ago
Let’s not forget that old arrow of causality. Perhaps men who are bad at sex are more likely to view porn rather than viewing porn making them bad at sex. Similarly maybe women who view porn are already sexually successful and are looking for ideas. Male and female sexual function aren’t particularly comparable either. If a man can’t get an erection then sexual intercourse just isn’t going to happen. There’s no hard analog for women. That’s just one example, there are many others. > and enhanced partner-reported sexual satisfaction (for some aspects)." I read this as something like: women who watch porn are more likely to perform fellatio well.
- gizajob 4y ago
  In my experience, real-world fellatrices are either naturally good at it, or aren't. I don't think porn presents a good demonstration of competent technique or how to adapt one's style to changing circumstances.
- derbOac 4y ago
  There's another issue with causality: maybe women who are disinterested in sex, for reasons that have nothing to do with their partner, are unfulfilling to their male partner, who starts to blame themselves and seek out porn? This is kind of a classic dead bedroom problem. Tellingly, as far as I can tell, they left out analyses of the relationship between self-reported sexual satisfaction with their partner and porn use. That is, how related is my sexual satisfaction with my partner to how often I seek out porn? Both of these types of processes play out in sex education and couples therapy settings: women who complain about men who have unrealistic ideas about sex due to porn, and don't seem to care about their satisfaction; but also men complaining about sexually cold female partners who aren't interested in sex, and so they find themselves interested in porn more as a result. It's hard to tell from the study results what's going on, or both.

jinjin2 4y ago

Interesting paradoxical conclusion: “The findings reveal the irony that porn – a male-dominated industry that targets a male-dominated audience – is associated with the erosion of the quality of men's sex lives and the improvement of women's sex lives.”

matbatt38 4y ago
If the metric is partner-reported sexual satisfaction, it seems more likely to me that women's porn consumption increases men's sex life. It stills works in that direction
what-imright 4y ago
Yea that sentence shows a bias. Very shady
superb-owl 4y ago
I think this actually makes a lot of sense. Porn is engineered to suit men's desires and tastes, rather than women's. Watching it teaches both groups to accept norms that are preferential to men. If you're a (hetero) man, this makes you a more selfish partner and vice versa for a woman.
- fold3 4y ago
  Exactly my thoughts. Meanwhile, I think more straight cismen should read the sex section of women magazines (ELLE, Marie-Claire, etc) to get the basics of what women likes and wants.
- canjobear 4y ago
  While this makes sense, it's not convincing to me because it seems that similar logic could be applied even if the observed results were the opposite. Ie if porn increased men's performance and decreased women's performance, that could also be explained from porn teaching norms that are preferential to men.
- numpad0 4y ago
  Porn properly engineered to suit men’s desires suck. This is just my experience but they don’t work. Good porn has female audiences or are sometimes even authored by cis female person even when the product is classified as “for men”. I don’t know if opposite is true as well but this “porn is men’s thing made by men” don’t seem factual. Sorry if I’ll be somehow offending trans or cat people by saying this, but not everyone has a concrete gender identification above life and always prefixing their thoughts with that.
- dehugger 4y ago
  I think this theory falls flat based on the conversations I've had with other women about this. I don't know a single woman that enjoys watching content geared towards heterosexual men. Of the ones that do watch (as opposed to reading erotica, which is far more prevalent) they almost exclusively go to niche sites/genres intended to appeal to women, or they watch amateur content.
numpad0 4y ago
> a male-dominated industry that targets a male-dominated audience Or this isn't reflecting the reality as we would think it is

User23 4y ago

Let’s not forget that old arrow of causality. Perhaps men who are bad at sex are more likely to view porn rather than viewing porn making them bad at sex. Similarly maybe women who view porn are already sexually successful and are looking for ideas. Male and female sexual function aren’t particularly comparable either. If a man can’t get an erection then sexual intercourse just isn’t going to happen. There’s no hard analog for women. That’s just one example, there are many others. > and enhanced partner-reported sexual satisfaction (for some aspects)." I read this as something like: women who watch porn are more likely to perform fellatio well.

gizajob 4y ago
In my experience, real-world fellatrices are either naturally good at it, or aren't. I don't think porn presents a good demonstration of competent technique or how to adapt one's style to changing circumstances.
derbOac 4y ago
There's another issue with causality: maybe women who are disinterested in sex, for reasons that have nothing to do with their partner, are unfulfilling to their male partner, who starts to blame themselves and seek out porn? This is kind of a classic dead bedroom problem. Tellingly, as far as I can tell, they left out analyses of the relationship between self-reported sexual satisfaction with their partner and porn use. That is, how related is my sexual satisfaction with my partner to how often I seek out porn? Both of these types of processes play out in sex education and couples therapy settings: women who complain about men who have unrealistic ideas about sex due to porn, and don't seem to care about their satisfaction; but also men complaining about sexually cold female partners who aren't interested in sex, and so they find themselves interested in porn more as a result. It's hard to tell from the study results what's going on, or both.