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By the time storage is ready we won't need electricity because climate change will have made industrial civilization impossible.
by thrown_22 4y ago
By the time storage is ready we won't need electricity because climate change will have made industrial civilization impossible.
- ncmncm 4y agoThis is the "civilization will collapse before we can get around to reducing our CO2 output enough" argument. Wasting time and money building reactors instead of spending that on renewables brings collapse nearer. If we can't beat the deadline with renewables, we can't beat it at all. Beating the deadline might not be possible, but we will not know until we do, or collapse. Choosing collapse is always wrong. Storage is easy. It is just now an overwhelmingly better use of capital to build generating capacity, to displace carbon combustion, than to build storage. It is only after you have more than enough to displace almost all your carbon combustion that storage is a very useful at all.
- thrown_22 4y ago>If we can't beat the deadline with renewables, we can't beat it at all. Reactors have been ready for 80 years. We keep putting them off because nuclear is scary and vaporware tech will save us. Here we are, yet again, 10 years away from the green nirvana that was promised every 10 years since the 80s. Meanwhile Germany is building coal plants again and Britain has melted. I am not committing suicide because of your fetish for solar panels and wind turbines. >It is only after you have more than enough to displace almost all your carbon combustion that storage is a very useful at all. I guess we can just turn society off at night.
- ncmncm 4y agoTo dwell on might-have-beens is to choose collapse. Fact is, to have built your nukes would have given us rashes of Chernobyls and Fukushimas, every year or two instead of every decade or two. Germany is not, in fact, building coal plants. Germany is building wind and solar farms. Until you have enough renewables to charge your storage, you burn NG at night. It would be stupid to burn NG to charge up storage, as stupid as to burn NG when you have storage charged and ready.