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You forgot to mention that it was due to diseases carried by europeans, it was not voluntary. The 5000 white killed the day of independence of Haiti was volunta
by Glawen 4y ago
You forgot to mention that it was due to diseases carried by europeans, it was not voluntary. The 5000 white killed the day of independence of Haiti was voluntary.
- kzrdude 4y agoHow many voluntary mass killings of thousands of people did the europeans not commit in their clash with the new world?
- Nesco 4y agoThis is textbook whataboutism
- kzrdude 4y agoThat starts with nosianu's post a few levels up, not here, don't you agree? My response is trying to poke a hole in what Glawen said to deflect.
- nosianu 4y agoNot quite sure about where we ended up here, but just to clarify, just in case. I don't think it is whataboutism when it is relevant. I think it should have been considered in the initial argument, the one I replied to, to begin with. The "genocide of its white population and confiscation of their property and land." - from the comment I replied to - was preceded by terrible atrocities by the people then in power against those who revolted (also see the comment from ambrozk). I think that is relevant to the discussion. Whataboutism brings in stuff that is not relevant and unrelated, to distract. I think I'm still right inside the same topic, one leading to the other.
- randunel 4y agoAs a European whose country suffered and was enslaved for long periods of time, I take offence in the rhetoric of "Europeans" committing such crimes. Be specific, a subset of European nations, a subset of American nations, and a subset of Asian nations try to dominate others through violence. So, name your country if you've done such deeds, but keep mine out of it.
- orangepurple 4y agoTo add to this, there are 87 distinct peoples in Europe (Pan and Pfeil (2004))
- EdwardDiego 4y agoYour country joined the Axis, massacred Jews, fought alongside Nazi Germany in Ukraine, and annexed Transnistria. Really weird hill you've chosen to take offense and die on. But sure, a subset of European nations try to dominate others through violence. And your country is in that set.
- Glawen 4y agoDon't put every european nation on the same scale when it goes to mass killings. Here the subject is Haiti, now please tell me how many voluntary mass killings happened.
- EdwardDiego 4y agoYeah, the Spanish were renowned for their moderation in Central and South America... they never killed anyone on purpose... Seriously?