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Your reasoning is starting with the wrong premise. As if people are looking for x86 or ARM machines. I would rather say people are in the market for something

by mmcnl 4y ago

Your reasoning is starting with the wrong premise. As if people are looking for x86 or ARM machines. I would rather say people are in the market for something to write their thesis on, write some code or do creative work. MacBooks and Windows/Intel laptops can do this both. There is no apples to oranges comparison. The separation of MacBooks and Windows/Intel laptops based on a chipset or OS is completely arbitrary and opinionated.

smoldesu 4y ago
> The separation of MacBooks and Windows/Intel laptops based on a chipset or OS is completely arbitrary and opinionated. There's a reasonable line to draw between consumer and professional needs, but this isn't it. The average person probably won't notice the difference when they're web browsing or futzing in Photoshop, but they're definitely going to notice when none of their Steam games install and the program their boss sent them won't run. The average laptop customer obviously isn't going to look for a specific ISA. However, they're definitely going to notice when those old Flash games won't boot, their code from 2 years ago doesn't compile or their Photoshop plugins break when switching Macs. That's the Apple Silicon problem.
- mmcnl 4y ago
  That puts Apple silicon at a disadvantage, not in a different class of computing.
  - Brian_K_White 4y ago
    It is literally a different class, and not a disadvantage because there are both advantages and disadvantages. But when deciding, the decision between an XPS, X1, and Surface, is different from the decision between a Surface, Mac, and Chromebook. They all have superficially overlapping facilities, they can all display web pages, they can all "run apps", but in fact they are 3 entirely distinct platforms, and you have to know which platform you want, or which platform will serve your needs, as an entirely seperate and distinct question before thequestion of different pieces of hardware within that platform. Those different platforms, are literally exactly different classes.

by mmcnl 4y ago

smoldesu 4y ago

> The separation of MacBooks and Windows/Intel laptops based on a chipset or OS is completely arbitrary and opinionated. There's a reasonable line to draw between consumer and professional needs, but this isn't it. The average person probably won't notice the difference when they're web browsing or futzing in Photoshop, but they're definitely going to notice when none of their Steam games install and the program their boss sent them won't run. The average laptop customer obviously isn't going to look for a specific ISA. However, they're definitely going to notice when those old Flash games won't boot, their code from 2 years ago doesn't compile or their Photoshop plugins break when switching Macs. That's the Apple Silicon problem.

mmcnl 4y ago
That puts Apple silicon at a disadvantage, not in a different class of computing.
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  It is literally a different class, and not a disadvantage because there are both advantages and disadvantages. But when deciding, the decision between an XPS, X1, and Surface, is different from the decision between a Surface, Mac, and Chromebook. They all have superficially overlapping facilities, they can all display web pages, they can all "run apps", but in fact they are 3 entirely distinct platforms, and you have to know which platform you want, or which platform will serve your needs, as an entirely seperate and distinct question before thequestion of different pieces of hardware within that platform. Those different platforms, are literally exactly different classes.