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>I found it a surprisingly insightful social commentary And how did you determine that it is insightful? The video starts with the guy confidently saying that

by gdy 4y ago

>I found it a surprisingly insightful social commentary And how did you determine that it is insightful? The video starts with the guy confidently saying that Alcatraz is a nickname of a Moscow prison (!!!), apparently having no clue that the Russian name of the game doesn't have anything to do with prisons and the name 'Planet Alcatraz' is given to the English edition of the game. If you have no idea what you talking about -- just make things up, right? Should I find Manhunt or Postal to be a mirror of American culture? "Interesting perspective", "insightful social commentary"?

rossvor 4y ago
He said no such thing, he said that the planet was named "Матросская тишина" (seaman's silence) after this prison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrosskaya_Tishina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrosskaya_Tishina . And you are aware that he's playing the russian version of the game, right? Translating some bits for the english audience. I'm sure he's perfectly aware what the name of the game is in russian (it's literally in the first shot of the video). Seems like you watched 5min to just quickly find something to discredit and immediately dismiss it. > Should I find Manhunt or Postal to be a mirror of American culture? "Interesting perspective", "insightful social commentary"? Not a "mirror" of a culture, but if you were not already versed in American culture and watched an insightful review of those games pulling on various culture trends which make up those games, I see no reason why it couldn't be an "Interesting perspective" or "insightful social commentary".
- gdy 4y ago
  You are right about the prison, I guess I missed both the word 'planet' and the prison name and filled in the blank, and made an unjust judgement of the author of the video. 'Seems like you watched 5min to just quickly find something to discredit and immediately dismiss it' That's quite an uncharitable interpretation. You are right about one thing though -- I gave up quite early. "I see no reason why it couldn't be an "Interesting perspective" or "insightful social commentary"" In the context of judging the American nation as a whole -- of course not.
  - palmetieri2000 4y ago
    Considering your lack of charitability you had for my initial comment why would the person you are replying to interpret you as anything other than nitpicky and asinine? You have added nothing to the conversation. Also in what way would this ever be at all related to the context of judging the American nation as anything? The article is about a robot is Moscow and the comment I replied to is discussing if Russian subcultures or culture can seem Cartoonish. Quit inventing battles to lose.
    - gdy 4y ago
      "the comment I replied to is discussing if Russian subcultures or culture can seem Cartoonish." Why did you inserted 'subcultures' here? The smsm42 subverted the discussion of the robot fuckup with a russophobic comment specifically saying 'It's a culture-wide thing' and you were replying to the comment saying 'there is no way they are that cartoonish'. Nowhere subcultures are mentioned except in your comment where you offered a game review as a source of information about Russian culture ('a really interesting perspective on *at least* some aspects of Russian subcultures and their prominence') and partial confirmation of the 'culture-wide thing' comment.
      - palmetieri2000 4y ago
        Another great "Gotcha!" from gdy. You have made no points worth addressing and contributed nothing to the conversation.
        gdy 4y ago
        My point is that you brought a cherry-picked subculture to the discussion of the 'culture-wide thing' and after that lied that the conversation was about 'Russian subcultures or culture'. I don't think you can 'address' it in any way except for not doing such things in the future.
        Kiro 4y ago

by gdy 4y ago

rossvor 4y ago

He said no such thing, he said that the planet was named "Матросская тишина" (seaman's silence) after this prison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrosskaya_Tishina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrosskaya_Tishina . And you are aware that he's playing the russian version of the game, right? Translating some bits for the english audience. I'm sure he's perfectly aware what the name of the game is in russian (it's literally in the first shot of the video). Seems like you watched 5min to just quickly find something to discredit and immediately dismiss it. > Should I find Manhunt or Postal to be a mirror of American culture? "Interesting perspective", "insightful social commentary"? Not a "mirror" of a culture, but if you were not already versed in American culture and watched an insightful review of those games pulling on various culture trends which make up those games, I see no reason why it couldn't be an "Interesting perspective" or "insightful social commentary".

gdy 4y ago
You are right about the prison, I guess I missed both the word 'planet' and the prison name and filled in the blank, and made an unjust judgement of the author of the video. 'Seems like you watched 5min to just quickly find something to discredit and immediately dismiss it' That's quite an uncharitable interpretation. You are right about one thing though -- I gave up quite early. "I see no reason why it couldn't be an "Interesting perspective" or "insightful social commentary"" In the context of judging the American nation as a whole -- of course not.
- palmetieri2000 4y ago
  Considering your lack of charitability you had for my initial comment why would the person you are replying to interpret you as anything other than nitpicky and asinine? You have added nothing to the conversation. Also in what way would this ever be at all related to the context of judging the American nation as anything? The article is about a robot is Moscow and the comment I replied to is discussing if Russian subcultures or culture can seem Cartoonish. Quit inventing battles to lose.
  - gdy 4y ago
    "the comment I replied to is discussing if Russian subcultures or culture can seem Cartoonish." Why did you inserted 'subcultures' here? The smsm42 subverted the discussion of the robot fuckup with a russophobic comment specifically saying 'It's a culture-wide thing' and you were replying to the comment saying 'there is no way they are that cartoonish'. Nowhere subcultures are mentioned except in your comment where you offered a game review as a source of information about Russian culture ('a really interesting perspective on *at least* some aspects of Russian subcultures and their prominence') and partial confirmation of the 'culture-wide thing' comment.
    - palmetieri2000 4y ago
      Another great "Gotcha!" from gdy. You have made no points worth addressing and contributed nothing to the conversation.
      - gdy 4y ago
        My point is that you brought a cherry-picked subculture to the discussion of the 'culture-wide thing' and after that lied that the conversation was about 'Russian subcultures or culture'. I don't think you can 'address' it in any way except for not doing such things in the future.
        Kiro 4y ago