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> This is getting absolutley ridiculous. I have tried on purpose to get addicted to alcohol and I couldn't You’re saying that alcohol addiction is made up? And

by hjkl0 4y ago

> This is getting absolutley ridiculous. I have tried on purpose to get addicted to alcohol and I couldn't You’re saying that alcohol addiction is made up? And you’re only evidence is that you are not an addict? Or, at least, don’t admit to being one > Substances help people deal with shit or overcome mental obstacles. I don't care for yet another research about alcohol being bad, show me a safer alternative then I would have respect for your work Substances don’t help people deal with shit. An alternative that’s safe would be talk therapy, for example.

_8j50 4y ago
> You’re saying that alcohol addiction is made up? And you’re only evidence is that you are not an addict? Or, at least, don’t admit to being one Not at all, just that it is difficult for me and presumably others like me. Other substances like cigarette only take a few days of usage to form a very strong habit. Substances do help people deal with trauma and pain, any pharmacist will tell you as such as well. Things like alcohol and even cocaine and cigarettes used to be perscribed by doctors precisely because of their ability to improve the quality of life of patients (what medicine is about ultimately, not artificially extending life). There are better and safer alternatives now, so for alcohol's case for example, show me what that alternative now don't tell me how bad it is, and make it available OTC like alcohol. You can't even get depression meds OTC without doctors and insurances so they are non-existent to someone who can't or won't jump through those hoops. This is also what I mean about how ridiculous this society is, you presume everyone can tak to a therapist or that therapy would work (or even would not worsen the condition) for everyone. And then you complain about crime, suicide rate and incarceration rate as if you didn't orchestrate them by saying "let them talk to a therapist" imagine the suffering caused by this one view alone.

by hjkl0 4y ago

_8j50 4y ago

> You’re saying that alcohol addiction is made up? And you’re only evidence is that you are not an addict? Or, at least, don’t admit to being one Not at all, just that it is difficult for me and presumably others like me. Other substances like cigarette only take a few days of usage to form a very strong habit. Substances do help people deal with trauma and pain, any pharmacist will tell you as such as well. Things like alcohol and even cocaine and cigarettes used to be perscribed by doctors precisely because of their ability to improve the quality of life of patients (what medicine is about ultimately, not artificially extending life). There are better and safer alternatives now, so for alcohol's case for example, show me what that alternative now don't tell me how bad it is, and make it available OTC like alcohol. You can't even get depression meds OTC without doctors and insurances so they are non-existent to someone who can't or won't jump through those hoops. This is also what I mean about how ridiculous this society is, you presume everyone can tak to a therapist or that therapy would work (or even would not worsen the condition) for everyone. And then you complain about crime, suicide rate and incarceration rate as if you didn't orchestrate them by saying "let them talk to a therapist" imagine the suffering caused by this one view alone.