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It's not cartoonish, it's the culture. Of course it's not homogenous - you can find a lot of people that go against the mainstream. In a hyper-macho culture you
by smsm42 4y ago
It's not cartoonish, it's the culture. Of course it's not homogenous - you can find a lot of people that go against the mainstream. In a hyper-macho culture you can find males who are shy and sensitive, in an introverted culture valuing privacy and closeness you can find people who are extroverted and exuberant, in a culture where accepting blame is not encouraged you can find a lot of people that will readily do that. When you describe the culture as if it were a single person, it will necessarily get a little cartoonish because we are reducing millions of people to one description. But I think this description matches the dominating culture quite well - though you of course always need to realize not everybody follows it to the same degree, and some people would eagerly defy it.
- foverzar 4y agoDude, you are just projecting your spite. This would be laughable if I didn't know you were serious. So it's actually just scary how how you make things up.
- krasin 4y ago>Dude, you are just projecting your spite. This would be laughable if I didn't know you were serious. So it's actually just scary how how you make things up. I lived in Russia for the first 27 years of my life (but I've been out for 11 years). The claimed phenomena definitely existed and was widespread back then. I was an odd duck by being ready to openly accept my mistakes / misdoings, and I was not alone, but that was not common.
- foverzar 4y agoI dunno, I see it everywhere, really. Owning you mistakes seems to be a rare and cherished virtue everywhere. Besides, my point is that such way of reasoning and inducting from a broken finger towards a whole culture is nothing more than spiteful supremacism.
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- smsm42 4y agoI'm sorry to scare you, please drink a cup of warm tea and listen to some good music, it will relax you. I haven't made up a thing though, I've observed this culture personally for decades. I grew up in it. Not sure what you mean by "spite" - nor do I care that much - and of course, I could be mistaken, but these were my observations and my conclusions, nothing is made up.
- dang 4y agoPlease don't cross into personal attack, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are. It just makes everything worse. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. I realize that's not easy on divisive, emotionally charged topics, but everyone commenting here is required to try.
- sacrosancty 4y agoThat explains a Russian traveler I met at an airport once who asked me for bus fare to some tourist destination. I declined and the bus left without him. He and his girlfriend passed me later and he said "Thanks to you we can't go to (wherever).". I couldn't really understand how someone could be that entitled, but if it's more a blame-others-by-default attitude, it makes more sense.
- cpursley 4y agoYes, let's judge an entire culture by a random bus stop experience. Replace "Russian" with "Black" and this would be considered a racist post.
- spacemanmatt 4y agoSo? This is a thread about culture and governments, not race. If you want to have the race argument go find another thread.
- paganel 4y agoYou could have used “cowboy culture” instead of “macho culture”, that way at least your over-the-top generalization would have been free of cultural appropriation.
- smsm42 4y agoI think this comment already has at least a half of the culture war bingo. If you add a couple of -isms and maybe a -phobia or two, you will have a definite winner.
- gambiting 4y agoThat has to be sarcasm. Or trying to be funny, but not very well.
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- paganel 4y agoNot sarcasm, but it gets real tiring having to fight these xenophobic tropes coming from the West.