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This is what kills me about Apple right now. I want MacOS on the iPad so badly and I know I'm not the only one. They've kinda painted themselves into a corner a

This is what kills me about Apple right now. I want MacOS on the iPad so badly and I know I'm not the only one. They've kinda painted themselves into a corner as the iPads now run basically the same silicon as the MacBooks with such a stripped down OS. Having the option to run MacOS on the iPad would be incredible, but it would also likely cannibalize their market.

gumby 4y ago
> Having the option to run MacOS on the iPad would be incredible, but it would also likely cannibalize their market. I don't see it -- an ipad pro costs about the same amount or more than a macbook air. Seems like they could easily get a similar margin on either device. > I want MacOS on the iPad so badly and I know I'm not the only one. I've never understood this. I'd be curious if you could give me some perspective. I do know a lot of people would like it, so it's likely I'm just not seeing what they do. I do like some convergence between the two platforms (similar functionality / "pick up either device and continue where you left off" on a lot of apps from messaging to 3P apps like OmniFocus) but I often switch from the ipad to the mac because of the power of the keyboard and the interface metaphors. Microsoft has tried to jam the two together without (in IMHO) success as they have different affordances. Keyboard on an ipad is meh -- my macbook air is lighter than an ipad + magic keyboard. I use my ipad a lot, both standalone for reading and as a pen accessory for my mac (Apple needs to do more work on this use case). I see lots of good, remaining opportunities for overlap but wouldn't want the OS of one on the hardware of the either.
- ModernMech 4y ago
  I think for me it's the other way around; if I could write and draw on my Macbook, I would have less use for an iPad. I think with the Surface laptop studio I have, MS has done an excellent job of "jamming" the two together, much more so than the older Surface Book that has a detachable screen.
- linguae 4y ago
  I'm a longtime Mac user who bought a Microsoft Surface Pro last year that replaced my 2013 MacBook Air. Even though Windows is not my favorite OS, I like having a full-blown desktop/workstation OS on a device that I could take notes and draw on, and WSL has made Windows much more pleasant for me. Also, to be frank, the Microsoft Surface Pro is the closest thing we have to Alan Kay's Dynabook concept (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook ); in fact, I have Squeak (a Smalltalk environment that is a direct descendant of Smalltalk-80) on my Surface Pro. The iPad Pro is fine hardware, but as a developer I find being restricted to the App Store for my applications very off-putting, and I personally believe this goes against what personal computing stands for; I'm willing to put up with these restrictions for phones, but not for tablets. macOS on an M1 iPad Pro, however, would be a game-changer.

gumby 4y ago

> Having the option to run MacOS on the iPad would be incredible, but it would also likely cannibalize their market. I don't see it -- an ipad pro costs about the same amount or more than a macbook air. Seems like they could easily get a similar margin on either device. > I want MacOS on the iPad so badly and I know I'm not the only one. I've never understood this. I'd be curious if you could give me some perspective. I do know a lot of people would like it, so it's likely I'm just not seeing what they do. I do like some convergence between the two platforms (similar functionality / "pick up either device and continue where you left off" on a lot of apps from messaging to 3P apps like OmniFocus) but I often switch from the ipad to the mac because of the power of the keyboard and the interface metaphors. Microsoft has tried to jam the two together without (in IMHO) success as they have different affordances. Keyboard on an ipad is meh -- my macbook air is lighter than an ipad + magic keyboard. I use my ipad a lot, both standalone for reading and as a pen accessory for my mac (Apple needs to do more work on this use case). I see lots of good, remaining opportunities for overlap but wouldn't want the OS of one on the hardware of the either.

ModernMech 4y ago
I think for me it's the other way around; if I could write and draw on my Macbook, I would have less use for an iPad. I think with the Surface laptop studio I have, MS has done an excellent job of "jamming" the two together, much more so than the older Surface Book that has a detachable screen.
linguae 4y ago
I'm a longtime Mac user who bought a Microsoft Surface Pro last year that replaced my 2013 MacBook Air. Even though Windows is not my favorite OS, I like having a full-blown desktop/workstation OS on a device that I could take notes and draw on, and WSL has made Windows much more pleasant for me. Also, to be frank, the Microsoft Surface Pro is the closest thing we have to Alan Kay's Dynabook concept (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook ); in fact, I have Squeak (a Smalltalk environment that is a direct descendant of Smalltalk-80) on my Surface Pro. The iPad Pro is fine hardware, but as a developer I find being restricted to the App Store for my applications very off-putting, and I personally believe this goes against what personal computing stands for; I'm willing to put up with these restrictions for phones, but not for tablets. macOS on an M1 iPad Pro, however, would be a game-changer.