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> If all mobile carriers start enforcing predatory contracts then I don’t know if GDPR will be very effective here. I thought the GDPR didn't allow signing awa

> If all mobile carriers start enforcing predatory contracts then I don’t know if GDPR will be very effective here. I thought the GDPR didn't allow signing away of privacy? Because if it does, then it's utterly useless - every webpage comes with a 100-page terms of service these days. > As it stands right now some European countries have started forcing ISPs to save logs, that’s actually worse. In fact the European Court of Justice declared that illegal [1], yet many countries simply ignored that ruling. You would think this would result in a large media assault about "subverting the rule of law", but I guess that's only a concern when they dislike the one doing the subverting. [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-court-privacy-idUSKBN14A13I https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-court-privacy-idUSKBN1...

mildmotive 4y ago
> I thought the GDPR didn't allow signing away of privacy? Because if it does, then it's utterly useless - every webpage comes with a 100-page terms of service these days. If that was the case Europeans wouldn’t have been able to use services like Facebook or iCloud. > In fact the European Court of Justice declared that illegal For example, Sweden did it shortly after an ISP Bahnhof advertised to its customers that it would not save logs. What seemed at the time to have fuelled this whole thing was mostly entertainment companies pushing these policies against European countries to crack down on piracy. Obviously an unsuccessful project. Many of our politicians traded our freedoms for the sake of the entertainment industry not losing money (supposedly). It didn’t serve its purpose, rather it just gave the government(s) more power over the people.