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Not exactly true. If eat a whole orange, the fiber in the orange slows down sugar uptake whereas if I drink juice the sugar hits bloodstream much faster. And

Not exactly true. If eat a whole orange, the fiber in the orange slows down sugar uptake whereas if I drink juice the sugar hits bloodstream much faster. And generally Phenylalanaline is better than some of the others. Why? Well because it's one step away from L-DOPA which is one step away from dopamine

adhesive_wombat 4y ago
Right, but "large amounts" of sugar. 250ml of juice (and yes, I know the suggest serving size of orange juice is much less than that, but it's very easy to drink a normal glass of it) is quite a few oranges. Sugar is, like everything except plutonium, fine in moderation. But "in moderation" is not how sugar occurs in many modern diets.
- sgerenser 4y ago
  Every orange juice I’ve seen here in the US lists a serving size of 8oz or 237ml, which I wouldn’t consider “much less” than 250ml.
  - adhesive_wombat 4y ago
    It's 150ml in the UK (6 servings per litre). Unsure if that's because they don't want to write 25g of sugar on the "traffic light" label (it's about 1g per 10ml), or they want people to think the packs are bigger in terms of servings.
polalavik 4y ago
By what metric is it “one step”? D2O is one step away from water, but that doesn’t make it good for you.
- chmod775 4y ago
  Your body will convert it, but your body won't convert D2O to H2O.
PragmaticPulp 4y ago
> And generally Phenylalanaline is better than some of the others. Why? Well because it's one step away from L-DOPA which is one step away from dopamine L-Phenylalanine is first converted to L-Tyrosine, which is then converted to L-DOPA, which is then converted to Dopamine. However, it's very misleading to reduce the body to basic formulas like this because these pathways from dietary amino acids to neurotransmitters are all regulated within the body at many different stages, so adding a little extra Phenylalanine to a meal isn't going to give you a dopamine boost. You consume a lot of Tyrosine in a standard protein like chicken breast (multiple grams, potentially) and nobody is getting high off of standard protein. The body is very good at regulating these things.

adhesive_wombat 4y ago

Right, but "large amounts" of sugar. 250ml of juice (and yes, I know the suggest serving size of orange juice is much less than that, but it's very easy to drink a normal glass of it) is quite a few oranges. Sugar is, like everything except plutonium, fine in moderation. But "in moderation" is not how sugar occurs in many modern diets.

sgerenser 4y ago
Every orange juice I’ve seen here in the US lists a serving size of 8oz or 237ml, which I wouldn’t consider “much less” than 250ml.
- adhesive_wombat 4y ago
  It's 150ml in the UK (6 servings per litre). Unsure if that's because they don't want to write 25g of sugar on the "traffic light" label (it's about 1g per 10ml), or they want people to think the packs are bigger in terms of servings.

polalavik 4y ago

By what metric is it “one step”? D2O is one step away from water, but that doesn’t make it good for you.

chmod775 4y ago
Your body will convert it, but your body won't convert D2O to H2O.

PragmaticPulp 4y ago

> And generally Phenylalanaline is better than some of the others. Why? Well because it's one step away from L-DOPA which is one step away from dopamine L-Phenylalanine is first converted to L-Tyrosine, which is then converted to L-DOPA, which is then converted to Dopamine. However, it's very misleading to reduce the body to basic formulas like this because these pathways from dietary amino acids to neurotransmitters are all regulated within the body at many different stages, so adding a little extra Phenylalanine to a meal isn't going to give you a dopamine boost. You consume a lot of Tyrosine in a standard protein like chicken breast (multiple grams, potentially) and nobody is getting high off of standard protein. The body is very good at regulating these things.