Not sure why this was submitted here but not complaining! MP is nice, but lacking. Hard to complain when it's free and it's user provided data. One thing mayb

Not sure why this was submitted here but not complaining! MP is nice, but lacking. Hard to complain when it's free and it's user provided data. One thing maybe more relevant for HN there is a new company doing 3d scans of sport crags. It looks really really cool. But I only boulder - would still be amazing to have. https://www.rockgarden.io/ https://www.rockgarden.io/ Way more helpful than user submitted photos and directions which are only half correct, and missing 70% MP also suffers from the most active climbers mot wanting to share their favorite place. This sport becoming too popular is a legitimate problem in many spaces - indoor and out. Guidebooks are still mostly a 1 person, small publisher thing. Which I love. Jamie Emerson is one of the fathers of CO climbing and is releasing 2 new books. MT Evans is out. I can't wait for RMNP. This is a hard space to scale as a free service. because like a lot of online things only like the top .1% are providing the bulk of the knowledge and content. History and stewardship are big problems too. Blasting music in the Park for instance. And then arguing flame wars on Insta between a teen and Jamie :) Access is constantly threatened and it takes outreach and relationships with land managers to keep open. Saving Little Cotton Wood is a big one that looks like they're going to literally be steam rolled and blasted apart. Though some of these 'old guys' used to stash pads themselves lol. Can complain about ethics but climbing has had a rebellious, anti-establishment streak. Losing the nicheness and seriousness of climbing is hard for me (gyms are filled with once in a while happy hour climbers and man-splanning dates) It would be awesome if RockGarden got some corporate backing or funding to expand. Only a few companies (red bull comes to mind. Yeti too.) that are willing to spend without an obvious direct ROI. Make DIY scanning rigs & send to paid locals across the world. ---- Background: I'm a fairly serious climber, mostly gym rat trying to get outside as I can't keep up with the kids anymore!