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Believe it or not, at least in my country there is a lot of people that is not aware of what you mention. Educated people like HN readers do, but populist gover

Believe it or not, at least in my country there is a lot of people that is not aware of what you mention. Educated people like HN readers do, but populist governments (like the one in my country) love to highlight all the "free" stuff that they give to the people.

standardUser 4y ago
I think you think that is what other people believe because you want someone to blame or think you're better than. People aren't that stupid.
- argentinian 4y ago
  Come to Argentina and talk to people. It's very cheap right now for foreigners. There are situations that people who was raised in an educated home in the first world find it hard to believe, but that happen anyways. Edit: I'll elaborate the point. There are people here that for more than 3 or 4 generations lived without working, being totally maintained by the state. Also a lot of that people never finish elementary school. So what happens is that they never think about where what they get comes from. It's normal for them to live 'for free' without ever considering how that works.
  - standardUser 4y ago
    When someone gives you a "free" candy bar, no one thinks it materialized out of the sky. We all know it had to be made somewhere and that process cost money. People where you live may not all have sophisticated understanding of taxation and government expenditures, but they are not so stupid as to pretend things just happen by literal magic. They know a doctor they visit gets a paycheck and a train the ride costs money to maintain and that these things aren't paid for with magic. So what is their explanation when you talk to them? Do they actually say it is magic? Or do they acknowledge the universally-known fact that stuff costs money? I can't think of a third explanation, so it must be one of the two. They may not share you same perspectives or understanding about how taxation works, who is paying those taxes, how those taxes are spent etc. But I seriously doubt they think it is faeries and wizards.
    - argentinian 4y ago
      It's about this that you mention: > do they acknowledge the universally-known fact that stuff costs money? No. They don't. I understand if it sounds absurd to you. But that's how it is here. It's simple: by default they don't think about it. They evaluate only considering the short term results. Its like this: Free -> like. Pay -> don't like. Of course if you talk with them they are able to understand, but many of them never ever gave any consideration to the matter. They don't believe magic explanations, they just don't think about it. For generations they got most things for free, they don't care how it works.
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    - argentinian 4y ago
      I'm just explaining facts that most people in Argentina would agree with, and get downvotes because what I say sounds completely absurd to educated people who live in developed countries. Argentina's economy is a mess and there are good reasons for it. If you want to check what I say, you can go to /r/argentina and ask there.
    - argentinian 4y ago
      Here you can see recent news in Argentina, about one of the millions of persons who live for 'free' and who published a video in internet that became viral: https://www.clarin.com/politica/planes-sociales-cobra-mujer-controvertido-video-viral_0_OeSC1SXbEI.html https://www.clarin.com/politica/planes-sociales-cobra-mujer-...

standardUser 4y ago

I think you think that is what other people believe because you want someone to blame or think you're better than. People aren't that stupid.

argentinian 4y ago
Come to Argentina and talk to people. It's very cheap right now for foreigners. There are situations that people who was raised in an educated home in the first world find it hard to believe, but that happen anyways. Edit: I'll elaborate the point. There are people here that for more than 3 or 4 generations lived without working, being totally maintained by the state. Also a lot of that people never finish elementary school. So what happens is that they never think about where what they get comes from. It's normal for them to live 'for free' without ever considering how that works.
- standardUser 4y ago
  When someone gives you a "free" candy bar, no one thinks it materialized out of the sky. We all know it had to be made somewhere and that process cost money. People where you live may not all have sophisticated understanding of taxation and government expenditures, but they are not so stupid as to pretend things just happen by literal magic. They know a doctor they visit gets a paycheck and a train the ride costs money to maintain and that these things aren't paid for with magic. So what is their explanation when you talk to them? Do they actually say it is magic? Or do they acknowledge the universally-known fact that stuff costs money? I can't think of a third explanation, so it must be one of the two. They may not share you same perspectives or understanding about how taxation works, who is paying those taxes, how those taxes are spent etc. But I seriously doubt they think it is faeries and wizards.
  - argentinian 4y ago
    It's about this that you mention: > do they acknowledge the universally-known fact that stuff costs money? No. They don't. I understand if it sounds absurd to you. But that's how it is here. It's simple: by default they don't think about it. They evaluate only considering the short term results. Its like this: Free -> like. Pay -> don't like. Of course if you talk with them they are able to understand, but many of them never ever gave any consideration to the matter. They don't believe magic explanations, they just don't think about it. For generations they got most things for free, they don't care how it works.
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  - argentinian 4y ago
    I'm just explaining facts that most people in Argentina would agree with, and get downvotes because what I say sounds completely absurd to educated people who live in developed countries. Argentina's economy is a mess and there are good reasons for it. If you want to check what I say, you can go to /r/argentina and ask there.
  - argentinian 4y ago
    Here you can see recent news in Argentina, about one of the millions of persons who live for 'free' and who published a video in internet that became viral: https://www.clarin.com/politica/planes-sociales-cobra-mujer-controvertido-video-viral_0_OeSC1SXbEI.html https://www.clarin.com/politica/planes-sociales-cobra-mujer-...