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Sure, then let's compare NYC to London: The train in NYC runs 24 hours a day 7 days a week. The London Tube stops at midnight. The train in NYC is much much c

Sure, then let's compare NYC to London: The train in NYC runs 24 hours a day 7 days a week. The London Tube stops at midnight. The train in NYC is much much cheaper, it's $2.75 to go anywhere on its almost 400km of track. London's Tube has zone-based pricing. The NYC subway cars are all air-conditioned. The NYC subway cars are far roomier than the Tube. NYCs subway is "cut and cover" and so the stations aren't nearly as deep and quicker to get in and out of.

nemo44x 4y ago
Yeah but our trains are filthy and full of derelict and deranged people. I love the Subway but the Tube has a lot going for it.
mattlondon 4y ago
For what it is worth, the tube does not entirely shut at midnight: https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-improvements/what-we-are-doing/night-tube https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-improvements/what-we-are-do... The equivalent cut-and-cover lines have Aircon and are roomy (they are now also entirely walk-through carriages https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Bombardier_S_Stock_Circle_line_Interior_3.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Bombardi...). The deep-level lines though are often uncooled. Public transport in London is notoriously expensive though it is true. One major failing of the NYC subway in my mind is the near total lack of signage. There is like one map per carriage (which is often hidden behind people standing or sitting), and the platforms have almost no signage or maps or directions. You look out the window to see where you are when you pull into a station and there are no signs. Perhaps there is a single letter initial every 30 meters or so... WTF? At least in London the station name is repeated all the way along the platform (along with route maps and network maps and colour-coded signs to other lines etc), there are like 8 maps in every carriage at above-head-height so you can see it over people etc. The express routes in NYC subway are awesome and I wish London had those

nemo44x 4y ago

Yeah but our trains are filthy and full of derelict and deranged people. I love the Subway but the Tube has a lot going for it.

mattlondon 4y ago

For what it is worth, the tube does not entirely shut at midnight: https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-improvements/what-we-are-doing/night-tube https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-improvements/what-we-are-do... The equivalent cut-and-cover lines have Aircon and are roomy (they are now also entirely walk-through carriages https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Bombardier_S_Stock_Circle_line_Interior_3.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Bombardi...). The deep-level lines though are often uncooled. Public transport in London is notoriously expensive though it is true. One major failing of the NYC subway in my mind is the near total lack of signage. There is like one map per carriage (which is often hidden behind people standing or sitting), and the platforms have almost no signage or maps or directions. You look out the window to see where you are when you pull into a station and there are no signs. Perhaps there is a single letter initial every 30 meters or so... WTF? At least in London the station name is repeated all the way along the platform (along with route maps and network maps and colour-coded signs to other lines etc), there are like 8 maps in every carriage at above-head-height so you can see it over people etc. The express routes in NYC subway are awesome and I wish London had those