I don't think this entire discussion has proven informative or useful here on HN, ergo my request to Dang. I'm not singling you out, I'm saying that the entire

I don't think this entire discussion has proven informative or useful here on HN, ergo my request to Dang. I'm not singling you out, I'm saying that the entire set of posts on this topic is a waste of our time and the topic should be shut down. You're taking this discussion personally. Don't! I don't intend to "cancel" anyone and think the whole idea is a breach of rationality, ethics and etiquette. Just some good manners is necessary. Even a heated discussion with overreach is good. Discussion w/o emotional motivation/expression is rarely productive. And remember, in any discussion, it is clear that you should not care (beyond etiquette and the law) what anyone else thinks of you. Otherwise you will censor your own true thoughts and others will fail to get your message. Then we all lose. That is part of free speech (an old idea, but a good one, perhaps not commonly in use currently).