4 ms·
Those who work through college are more likely to have worse outcomes, and they're still likely to have a high debt. Those who went to college and have no debt
by blowski 4y ago
Those who work through college are more likely to have worse outcomes, and they're still likely to have a high debt. Those who went to college and have no debt are more likely to come from wealthy families. And if we say "only those who can afford it should go to college", then you are discouraging pretty much the best opportunity for social mobility.
- iratewizard 4y agoCollege isn't an opportunity for social mobility anymore. The cost of tuition shoots up as the curriculum relaxes. It's an investment trap for people who can't do the math and listen too closely to what their midwit school teachers believe about the world.
- bitexploder 4y agoAnd yet, you can usually go to community college and then a reasonably well regarded state school without taking on crazy debt. It is when you go out of state and live in campus housing that costs balloon.
- iratewizard 4y agoCommunity college can be a great investment in some cases, definitely. Especially for people who struggle with setting goals and self-discipline. If you have self-discipline and know what you want to be able to do, there can be a lot of unnecessary time waste in the classroom. I would be curious to break down and audit time against 4 buckets of things you will learn. Things you "need to know", "ought to know", "don't need" and "don't actually understand". I wonder how long it takes to fill each bucket and how much faster the latter two grow. Experience is the best teacher of all and additional schooling is the biggest barrier to useful experience.