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> I've wasted so much time digging into tools that I've never used again. Don’t think of it this way. Learning new tools is almost never a waste of time, you j

> I've wasted so much time digging into tools that I've never used again. Don’t think of it this way. Learning new tools is almost never a waste of time, you just don’t know when you’ll need the lessons learned next. But you will.

mmartinson 4y ago
It's valuable to consider the opportunity cost of this compared to a deepened knowledge of an already productive tool
rolisz 4y ago
It depends. Maybe the alternative is to get better at a tool you already know. Maybe you can be a jack of all trades, master of none, or you can go really deep into only 2-3 things. It depends a lot on your personality I think.
weatherlite 4y ago
What lessons do I learn from learning webpack? Or whatever the new way of bundling things in FE is called now? Compare that to understanding C or UNIX. There are skills that decay much slower than others.
- biztos 4y ago
  Maybe it's counterintuitive, but I think the "jack of all trades" role should be given to someone who's very senior, but isn't focused on career advancement. It sounds like you got stuck learning more trivial things before you had a good foundation in something more substantial (like C or UNIX). If it weren't for the rampant ageism in the industry, that job might be a perfect fit for someone in their 60s who has already written a few million lines of C and is happy to help less experienced people just get unblocked. Instead it often falls to the "junior senior" because the "senior seniors" are all pushing 30 and need to work on portable skills. (Just my observation of the industry, maybe your own case was different.)
- goodpoint 4y ago
  > Compare that to understanding C or UNIX. There are skills that decay much slower than others. Correct! Knowledge around C, Linux, CPUs and optimization last many decades. Knowledge of tools and libraries in high-churn languages last years at best.
  - EddySchauHai 4y ago
    I've found a lot more career happiness with focusing on a long-term domain (networking), long-term expertise (testing), and a stable tech stack (python, c, etc). Got pretty close to burnout chasing the latest libraries in the latest languages a few years ago but now I'm very happy making sure the product is cutting edge but the tech stack is stable.
    - weatherlite 4y ago
      This is what I'm trying to do as well now (move from full stack web dev to something more in the lines of what you're describing). Any tips you can remember on how to make the move?
      - EddySchauHai 4y ago
        I spent a bit of time practicing these tech stacks in my own time and fitting them into prior jobs where I could, but honestly it’s worth just getting out there and applying.
        weatherlite 4y ago
        What is your role now (just curious), what do u mean by testing? And what was your prior experience before making this move?
- LAC-Tech 4y ago
  As a fellow webpack victim, the new way of bundling things in FE is esbuild and it's better in every way - faster, simpler to configure, easier to understand... and did I mention faster? my god it's so much faster. Your point about wasting your finite life dealing with webpack still stands, but just want everyone to know that there is a ray of light in frontend.

mmartinson 4y ago

It's valuable to consider the opportunity cost of this compared to a deepened knowledge of an already productive tool

rolisz 4y ago

It depends. Maybe the alternative is to get better at a tool you already know. Maybe you can be a jack of all trades, master of none, or you can go really deep into only 2-3 things. It depends a lot on your personality I think.

weatherlite 4y ago

What lessons do I learn from learning webpack? Or whatever the new way of bundling things in FE is called now? Compare that to understanding C or UNIX. There are skills that decay much slower than others.

biztos 4y ago
Maybe it's counterintuitive, but I think the "jack of all trades" role should be given to someone who's very senior, but isn't focused on career advancement. It sounds like you got stuck learning more trivial things before you had a good foundation in something more substantial (like C or UNIX). If it weren't for the rampant ageism in the industry, that job might be a perfect fit for someone in their 60s who has already written a few million lines of C and is happy to help less experienced people just get unblocked. Instead it often falls to the "junior senior" because the "senior seniors" are all pushing 30 and need to work on portable skills. (Just my observation of the industry, maybe your own case was different.)
goodpoint 4y ago
> Compare that to understanding C or UNIX. There are skills that decay much slower than others. Correct! Knowledge around C, Linux, CPUs and optimization last many decades. Knowledge of tools and libraries in high-churn languages last years at best.
- EddySchauHai 4y ago
  I've found a lot more career happiness with focusing on a long-term domain (networking), long-term expertise (testing), and a stable tech stack (python, c, etc). Got pretty close to burnout chasing the latest libraries in the latest languages a few years ago but now I'm very happy making sure the product is cutting edge but the tech stack is stable.
  - weatherlite 4y ago
    This is what I'm trying to do as well now (move from full stack web dev to something more in the lines of what you're describing). Any tips you can remember on how to make the move?
    - EddySchauHai 4y ago
      I spent a bit of time practicing these tech stacks in my own time and fitting them into prior jobs where I could, but honestly it’s worth just getting out there and applying.
      - weatherlite 4y ago
        What is your role now (just curious), what do u mean by testing? And what was your prior experience before making this move?
LAC-Tech 4y ago
As a fellow webpack victim, the new way of bundling things in FE is esbuild and it's better in every way - faster, simpler to configure, easier to understand... and did I mention faster? my god it's so much faster. Your point about wasting your finite life dealing with webpack still stands, but just want everyone to know that there is a ray of light in frontend.