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Non-existent to a close approximation (maybe more Elixir stuff out there than the others you listed but still very rare). Learn those languages if you’re intere

by jstx1 4y ago

Non-existent to a close approximation (maybe more Elixir stuff out there than the others you listed but still very rare). Learn those languages if you’re interested and curious but if the goal is to get a job with a new to you language, stay as far away as possible from them. Not only are there very few jobs but also the niche languages will distract you from learning stuff that’s in demand.

bees_buzz 4y ago
If you go looking for elixir stuff it’s there, and it seems like its usage in industry is expanding at a steady pace. IMO this is because it’s a reasonably approachable language designed to solve a common difficult problem (high concurrency, fault tolerance at scale)
- lord-squirrel 4y ago
  +1, elixir is being used in a lot of cool places and only growing. For example at discord, their chat infrastructure is built with elixir. https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2020/10/08/real-time-communication-at-scale-with-elixir-at-discord/ https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2020/10/08/real-time-communicat...
AlchemistCamp 4y ago
It really amazes me how often I see this fallacy. The total amount of supply doesn't matter much. What matters (both for the employer and the job-seeker) is the ratio of supply to demand. E.g., let's say JavaScript has the most demand of any language and there are 2 zillion job openings. This sounds great for job seekers initially, but what if there are 5 zillion JS devs seeking jobs? In that case job hunting might be very difficult. Similarly if there are 100 remote positions open in Pony, but only 10 Pony devs available to fill them, job hunting might not be so difficult. There are some liquidity advantages in absolute scale, but for the most part it's the ratio of supply to demand that matters and not the raw numbers.
- jstx1 4y ago
  Niche language means fewer companies to pick from. If I don’t like any of them, what do I care how desperate they are?
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    Explained twice and yet still missing the point.
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  - roguas 4y ago
    If you pick niche for niche, sure. If you pick niche as you think its better aligned to your workflow then you get a free filter as the companies are far more likely to be aligned to your "workflow".
- Kwpolska 4y ago
  What if I don’t want to work remotely? What if I’m not in the US, or what if I’m in Colorado? What if all the jobs are in an industry I would prefer not to work in or am morally opposed to? If there are 2 zillion positions available, there’s a much larger chance to find something in my area and meeting all my requirements/wishes. But if there are just 100 jobs, I might end up without a job, or with a job I’m not very happy about.
  - CRConrad 4y ago
    > What if I don’t want to work remotely? What if I’m not in the US, or what if I’m in Colorado? What if all the jobs are in an industry I would prefer not to work in or am morally opposed to? If there are 2 zillion positions available, there’s a much larger chance to find something in my area and meeting all my requirements/wishes. But if there are just 100 jobs, I might end up without a job, or with a job I’m not very happy about. Yup, there's a better chance that ten of those 2 zillion positions will be in Colorado. But there's also an equal chance that 25 of those 5 zillion other candidates will.

by jstx1 4y ago

bees_buzz 4y ago

If you go looking for elixir stuff it’s there, and it seems like its usage in industry is expanding at a steady pace. IMO this is because it’s a reasonably approachable language designed to solve a common difficult problem (high concurrency, fault tolerance at scale)

lord-squirrel 4y ago
+1, elixir is being used in a lot of cool places and only growing. For example at discord, their chat infrastructure is built with elixir. https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2020/10/08/real-time-communication-at-scale-with-elixir-at-discord/ https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2020/10/08/real-time-communicat...

AlchemistCamp 4y ago

It really amazes me how often I see this fallacy. The total amount of supply doesn't matter much. What matters (both for the employer and the job-seeker) is the ratio of supply to demand. E.g., let's say JavaScript has the most demand of any language and there are 2 zillion job openings. This sounds great for job seekers initially, but what if there are 5 zillion JS devs seeking jobs? In that case job hunting might be very difficult. Similarly if there are 100 remote positions open in Pony, but only 10 Pony devs available to fill them, job hunting might not be so difficult. There are some liquidity advantages in absolute scale, but for the most part it's the ratio of supply to demand that matters and not the raw numbers.

jstx1 4y ago
Niche language means fewer companies to pick from. If I don’t like any of them, what do I care how desperate they are?
- goodpoint 4y ago
  Explained twice and yet still missing the point.
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- roguas 4y ago
  If you pick niche for niche, sure. If you pick niche as you think its better aligned to your workflow then you get a free filter as the companies are far more likely to be aligned to your "workflow".
Kwpolska 4y ago
What if I don’t want to work remotely? What if I’m not in the US, or what if I’m in Colorado? What if all the jobs are in an industry I would prefer not to work in or am morally opposed to? If there are 2 zillion positions available, there’s a much larger chance to find something in my area and meeting all my requirements/wishes. But if there are just 100 jobs, I might end up without a job, or with a job I’m not very happy about.
- CRConrad 4y ago
  > What if I don’t want to work remotely? What if I’m not in the US, or what if I’m in Colorado? What if all the jobs are in an industry I would prefer not to work in or am morally opposed to? If there are 2 zillion positions available, there’s a much larger chance to find something in my area and meeting all my requirements/wishes. But if there are just 100 jobs, I might end up without a job, or with a job I’m not very happy about. Yup, there's a better chance that ten of those 2 zillion positions will be in Colorado. But there's also an equal chance that 25 of those 5 zillion other candidates will.