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Neat. I have no trouble believing Stephen Wolfram could be out of touch with the current state of QM given he's been busy with his physics project and what not.

Neat. I have no trouble believing Stephen Wolfram could be out of touch with the current state of QM given he's been busy with his physics project and what not. And he's a terrible speaker. That podcast was the longest in Mindscape history due to that. I think part of his view is also partially based on the Wolfram Project multiway causal graph framework and its implications on the measurement problem. It's an interesting podcast if nothing else. Not very comprehensible, but interesting nonetheless.

bowsamic 4y ago
Yeah. Frankly I don't know much at all about Wolfram's work, other than that Mathematica is the best maths software in the world. As far as I have gathered, his work is so strange and different that it has very little contact with most physicists. I work in quantum measurement and non-linear quantum optics and no one discusses him, either on the experimental or theoretical side. He seems to be a smart maverick with a bunch of money. I don't know if anything will come of it in the end
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  Without having a first clue about the mathematical details, I can tell you it's most related to the work out of Sean Carrol et al trying to derive GR from QM, with spacetime being an emergent property of networks of quantum entanglement. Wolfram's idea is even more stripped down to hypergraphs of nodes with nothing but identity, and some number of neighbour nodes. Then they're exploring the space of possible various update rules for these graphs(he calls this rulial space). He claims that it should be possible to derive "all of physics" from this model, including the Schrodinger equation. He says the resulting emergent QM is most similar to Many Worlds, but interestingly in their model it seems like branches in fact merge together again(eventually, though it might take the entire lifespan of the universe). Carrol seems to think that starting with the Schrödinger equation is cleaner and more austere(of course he's rather biased), and I tend to agree. My gut reaction to his mention of a rulial space is to be reminded of the Calabi-Yao manifold situation in string theory. If the space is even close to similar in size to that parameter space, that would be a theoretical nightmare.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  I wanted to add that indeed he does have a lot of money, and he has hired some very talented postdocs and PhDs with some of it. I have no doubt we'll see a lot of interesting new theory out of his group at least. And that's never a bad thing, even if the theory doesn't pan out.

bowsamic 4y ago

Yeah. Frankly I don't know much at all about Wolfram's work, other than that Mathematica is the best maths software in the world. As far as I have gathered, his work is so strange and different that it has very little contact with most physicists. I work in quantum measurement and non-linear quantum optics and no one discusses him, either on the experimental or theoretical side. He seems to be a smart maverick with a bunch of money. I don't know if anything will come of it in the end

mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
Without having a first clue about the mathematical details, I can tell you it's most related to the work out of Sean Carrol et al trying to derive GR from QM, with spacetime being an emergent property of networks of quantum entanglement. Wolfram's idea is even more stripped down to hypergraphs of nodes with nothing but identity, and some number of neighbour nodes. Then they're exploring the space of possible various update rules for these graphs(he calls this rulial space). He claims that it should be possible to derive "all of physics" from this model, including the Schrodinger equation. He says the resulting emergent QM is most similar to Many Worlds, but interestingly in their model it seems like branches in fact merge together again(eventually, though it might take the entire lifespan of the universe). Carrol seems to think that starting with the Schrödinger equation is cleaner and more austere(of course he's rather biased), and I tend to agree. My gut reaction to his mention of a rulial space is to be reminded of the Calabi-Yao manifold situation in string theory. If the space is even close to similar in size to that parameter space, that would be a theoretical nightmare.
mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
I wanted to add that indeed he does have a lot of money, and he has hired some very talented postdocs and PhDs with some of it. I have no doubt we'll see a lot of interesting new theory out of his group at least. And that's never a bad thing, even if the theory doesn't pan out.