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What does Cloudflare normally do with spam sites, is it a hands off approach or do they do some policing?

yellow_lead 4y ago
Hands off till it gets upvoted on HN
charcircuit 4y ago
They do the bare minimum. You can report sites for abuse and they will take them down. It doesn't appear like they do anything to proactively stop similar sites so the person can just make a new account and domain and be back in business.
- miyuru 4y ago
  cloudflare abuse department is really lacking. Their abuse form is getting abused too. It sends an email to site operator and the server hosting company in single submit so its getting abused. It not even have a captcha. https://abuse.cloudflare.com/ https://abuse.cloudflare.com/
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breakingcups 4y ago
They will do nothing, and it is a feature. The only thing they'll do is forward the complaint to the user. Leaving you with no recourse other than to take legal action before Cloudflare will lift a finger. Unless there's CSAM, of course.
- sammy2244 4y ago
  You need to remember that Cloudflare isnt a host
  - r1ch 4y ago
    That isn't always the case these days, web apps can run on Cloudflare without an origin.
    - sammy2244 4y ago
  - breakingcups 4y ago
    I've often ranted about this, because for all intents and purposes they are. They store the content of the website on their drive to serve to visitors. Whatever processes lie in the backend of whatever website to fetch up-to-date content from an upstream source is not my concern. They are NOT a neutral ISP, they are providing a service to their customer which includes hosting (doesn't matter if it's temporary hosting because they expire files). From our point of view, it is their IP addresses that are hosting the website. They have all the responsibilities a traditional hoster has, no motter how they try to frame this debate.
- bad416f1f5a2 4y ago
  This… seems about right? A trademark dispute is a civil issue between two parties. We have legal systems to solve these. Cloudflare should ensure that their customers get timely notification of complaints, and that’s pretty much it.

Hands off till it gets upvoted on HN

They do the bare minimum. You can report sites for abuse and they will take them down. It doesn't appear like they do anything to proactively stop similar sites so the person can just make a new account and domain and be back in business.

miyuru 4y ago
cloudflare abuse department is really lacking. Their abuse form is getting abused too. It sends an email to site operator and the server hosting company in single submit so its getting abused. It not even have a captcha. https://abuse.cloudflare.com/ https://abuse.cloudflare.com/

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breakingcups 4y ago

They will do nothing, and it is a feature. The only thing they'll do is forward the complaint to the user. Leaving you with no recourse other than to take legal action before Cloudflare will lift a finger. Unless there's CSAM, of course.

sammy2244 4y ago
You need to remember that Cloudflare isnt a host
- r1ch 4y ago
  That isn't always the case these days, web apps can run on Cloudflare without an origin.
  - sammy2244 4y ago
- breakingcups 4y ago
  I've often ranted about this, because for all intents and purposes they are. They store the content of the website on their drive to serve to visitors. Whatever processes lie in the backend of whatever website to fetch up-to-date content from an upstream source is not my concern. They are NOT a neutral ISP, they are providing a service to their customer which includes hosting (doesn't matter if it's temporary hosting because they expire files). From our point of view, it is their IP addresses that are hosting the website. They have all the responsibilities a traditional hoster has, no motter how they try to frame this debate.
bad416f1f5a2 4y ago
This… seems about right? A trademark dispute is a civil issue between two parties. We have legal systems to solve these. Cloudflare should ensure that their customers get timely notification of complaints, and that’s pretty much it.