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In the U.K. the people who want renewables tend to be under 40s that can’t afford to buy a house. Those that actively don’t want renewables tend to own their ow
by midasuni 4y ago
In the U.K. the people who want renewables tend to be under 40s that can’t afford to buy a house. Those that actively don’t want renewables tend to own their own home and may have a couple the let out.
- robertlagrant 4y agoPretty much no-one actively doesn't want renewables. They might not want them built very near them, but that's different.
- Ekaros 4y agoI'm not against them, but I think they should not be specially subsidised. Just pay what ever the market rate at the moment is. If it is not enough to cover investment too bad.
- smallerfish 4y agoSurely they should be at least as equally subsidized as other energy sources, with the cost of external cleanup perhaps also factored in?
- LadyCailin 4y agoThat would be fine with me, if every energy source had to pay its own negative externalities.
- Ekaros 4y agoWill absolutely all of the externalities of mining, manufacturing and transport then be also applied to renewables? Also, maybe if there is any risk of damage to surroundings like with hydro batteries there would be need to deposit amount of money that covers them fully.
- oblio 4y agoYes, they should. Otherwise we'll just drown in a hot sea of shit, only 50 years down the line. Everything needs to be sustainable, kind of by definition. But as with any problem, let's first start with the stuff causing the damage. Let's get oil and gas and coal to pay for EVERY negative externality.
- throwaway2037 4y agoYou wrote: <<Just pay what ever the market rate at the moment is.>> This is positive ridiculous. Are you serious in 2022? Your electricity is surely mostly sourced from hydrocarbons. Are you paying "true cost"? Surely not. If electricity was suddenly twice the cost due to carbon costs (which is probably the true environmental cost), you would be shouting from your windows to build more solar panels and wind turbines.
- ZeroGravitas 4y agoThere's a very obvious paper trail of people not wanting renewables. As the article notes this price decline was predictable decades ago, but you can't really blame people for being dubious about predictions. Maybe the people who got it right were just lucky. But since real actual installed wind and solar became cheaper a while ago, the people still openly arguing against renewables slide ever close to cartoon supervillain status.
- pfdietz 4y ago"Nuclear would have won if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
- formerkrogemp 4y agoLet's not forget the close ties between German politicians and Gazprom executives, among other issues..
- pfdietz 4y agoYes, I'm sure the near universal failure of nuclear to compete around the world is due to a conspiracy in Germany.
- Ekaros 4y agoI blame the Green movement. Those people really just wanted to destroy the planet. Not limit global change...
- pfdietz 4y agoI see. The Green movement is globally all powerful, and you explain away the fact that the world is still not a Green utopia by saying the Green movement isn't actually Green. This is awesome mental gymnastics! The alternate explanation is that nuclear is a sick technology, and the Green movement is not responsible for its failure. Nuclear was so weak even a group as feckless as the Greens could have success against it.