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>Houston is not a particularly important science and technology hub in the US. I'm sorry, what? The city that hosts the Christopher C. Kraft Jr. Mission Contro

>Houston is not a particularly important science and technology hub in the US. I'm sorry, what? The city that hosts the Christopher C. Kraft Jr. Mission Control Center is not a science and technology hub? There is science and technology outside of social media apps and internet ad surveillance tech.

DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
> The city that hosts the Christopher C. Kraft Jr. Mission Control Center is not a science and technology hub? Yes, it's not a particularly important hub in the US. Boston, SF, and countless other cities are more important hubs. Having one space mission control center does not make a city into the foremost American science and technology hub. The Trump administration decided to close down one Chinese consulate as a political message. They probably chose Houston because closing the consulate there is less disruptive than closing, say, the NY consulate. When the Chinese retaliated, they also chose a relatively unimportant US consulate to close.
- remflight 4y ago
  Your response is absurd. You think China would only focus on a few cities? They likely have multiple efforts going in every major city all at the same time. They have more than enough money and motivation to do that. To dismiss Houston just because it’s not Silicon Valley is absurd. Any strategic advantage is still an advantage. They have the luxury of not having to worry about profits and losses like a corporation.
  - DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
    The document that was cited above claims that Houston was a major global hub of Chinese science and technology espionage. That's what's absurd. Practically every consulate and embassy around the world is crawling with spies. "Diplomatic cover" is a standard way of sending spies to a foreign country. That's not why the US would close down a foreign embassy. The closure of the Chinese embassy, with a big announcement and almost no forewarning, was meant as a political statement. It came in the middle of an escalating trade war, initiated by the Trump administration. The post facto rationalizations about the Houston embassy being some extraordinary hotbed of espionage were absurd on their face, and I'm surprised by the level of naiveté in this thread towards these sorts of official government explanations for what are obviously political moves.

DiogenesKynikos 4y ago

> The city that hosts the Christopher C. Kraft Jr. Mission Control Center is not a science and technology hub? Yes, it's not a particularly important hub in the US. Boston, SF, and countless other cities are more important hubs. Having one space mission control center does not make a city into the foremost American science and technology hub. The Trump administration decided to close down one Chinese consulate as a political message. They probably chose Houston because closing the consulate there is less disruptive than closing, say, the NY consulate. When the Chinese retaliated, they also chose a relatively unimportant US consulate to close.

remflight 4y ago
Your response is absurd. You think China would only focus on a few cities? They likely have multiple efforts going in every major city all at the same time. They have more than enough money and motivation to do that. To dismiss Houston just because it’s not Silicon Valley is absurd. Any strategic advantage is still an advantage. They have the luxury of not having to worry about profits and losses like a corporation.
- DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
  The document that was cited above claims that Houston was a major global hub of Chinese science and technology espionage. That's what's absurd. Practically every consulate and embassy around the world is crawling with spies. "Diplomatic cover" is a standard way of sending spies to a foreign country. That's not why the US would close down a foreign embassy. The closure of the Chinese embassy, with a big announcement and almost no forewarning, was meant as a political statement. It came in the middle of an escalating trade war, initiated by the Trump administration. The post facto rationalizations about the Houston embassy being some extraordinary hotbed of espionage were absurd on their face, and I'm surprised by the level of naiveté in this thread towards these sorts of official government explanations for what are obviously political moves.