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When he died there were lots of extremely positive and nostalgic comments about him. Are war criminals automatically forgiven when they die? Will Bush also be r

by sofixa 4y ago

When he died there were lots of extremely positive and nostalgic comments about him. Are war criminals automatically forgiven when they die? Will Bush also be remembered fondly and for his buffoonery and not the war crimes? That's bleak..

Gibbon1 4y ago
You might want to stock up on booze and be prepared to disconnect from all media when Kissinger finally kicks it.
- ReptileMan 4y ago
  Don't sweat it - he is immortal.
  - jessaustin 4y ago
    Username checks out... ...although recently Kissinger seems to have grown old enough to somewhat value human life: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissinger-ukraine-russia-territory-davos/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissin...
drewcoo 4y ago
Well, compared with the other neocon hawks, Powell was at least not a neocon. And not terribly hawkish. We live in times when people want to turn the war criminal Jimmy Carter into a moral hero. Don't even talk to me about more recent shit being too far gone. Carter ended the age of the New Deal President. He introduced neoliberal economics, which most people finally realize we're suffering from now. Our bleak future is Carter's "Crisis of Confidence." It's our fault, according to Carter.
zimpenfish 4y ago
> Will Bush also be remembered fondly and for his buffoonery and not the war crimes? I mean, he pretty much already is, from what I've seen (palling around with celebrities, getting good press for shunning Trump, etc.)
enimodas 4y ago
We're not far off: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rc2u5h/this_is_a_note_that_george_hw_bush_left_in_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rc2u5h/this_is_a_note...
the_biot 4y ago
The everyday buffoonery is not very relevant in the long run, it's the broad strokes that make it into the history books. - GWB invaded Iraq under false pretenses, and ruined the place for generations. - Obama got Obamacare through congress, giving millions access to healthcare. - Trump tried a coup when he lost the election.

by sofixa 4y ago

Gibbon1 4y ago

You might want to stock up on booze and be prepared to disconnect from all media when Kissinger finally kicks it.

ReptileMan 4y ago
Don't sweat it - he is immortal.
- jessaustin 4y ago
  Username checks out... ...although recently Kissinger seems to have grown old enough to somewhat value human life: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissinger-ukraine-russia-territory-davos/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissin...

drewcoo 4y ago

Well, compared with the other neocon hawks, Powell was at least not a neocon. And not terribly hawkish. We live in times when people want to turn the war criminal Jimmy Carter into a moral hero. Don't even talk to me about more recent shit being too far gone. Carter ended the age of the New Deal President. He introduced neoliberal economics, which most people finally realize we're suffering from now. Our bleak future is Carter's "Crisis of Confidence." It's our fault, according to Carter.

zimpenfish 4y ago

> Will Bush also be remembered fondly and for his buffoonery and not the war crimes? I mean, he pretty much already is, from what I've seen (palling around with celebrities, getting good press for shunning Trump, etc.)

enimodas 4y ago

We're not far off: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rc2u5h/this_is_a_note_that_george_hw_bush_left_in_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/rc2u5h/this_is_a_note...

the_biot 4y ago

The everyday buffoonery is not very relevant in the long run, it's the broad strokes that make it into the history books. - GWB invaded Iraq under false pretenses, and ruined the place for generations. - Obama got Obamacare through congress, giving millions access to healthcare. - Trump tried a coup when he lost the election.