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Seeing Extravert with an "a" instead of an "o", as in Extrovert, really bugged me. When these sorts of things happen, I normally try to dig and find out the why
by IncRnd 4y ago
Seeing Extravert with an "a" instead of an "o", as in Extrovert, really bugged me. When these sorts of things happen, I normally try to dig and find out the why and wherefore of the situation. Sometimes, the difference is regional. Sometimes I am wrong. Sometimes I am right. As things turned out, there is a story here.
Below is a portion of the page contents from https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2016/01/extrovert-extravert.html https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2016/01/extrovert-extrave... to discuss this issue.
Extrovert or extravert?
January 11, 2016
Q: I make a point of using “extravert,” not “extrovert,” because that’s how Myers-Briggs spells it. I did the personality test and learned I’m neither an “introvert” nor an “extravert.” I’m right on the line—I call myself an “ambivert.” Your thoughts?
A: We’ve checked six standard dictionaries and all of them list “extrovert” as the principal spelling for someone with an outgoing or gregarious personality, though five include “extravert” as an acceptable variant. The two spellings showed up in writing at about the same time, “extravert” in 1916 and “extrovert” in 1918, according to citations in the Oxford English Dictionary. Etymologically, “extravert” is the term one would expect. In Latin, extra means outside and vertere means to turn. So an “extravert” turns outward.
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Despite the questionable etymology of “extrovert,” speakers of English overwhelming prefer it to “extravert,” which explains why “extrovert” is the principal spelling in standard dictionaries. The term “extravert” is more at home in the literature of psychology. That’s why the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, the personality questionnaire you filled out, lists “extraversion,” not “extroversion,” as a psychological preference. As Oxford Dictionaries online explains, “The original spelling extravert is now rare in general use but is found in technical use in psychology.”
In fact, standard dictionaries generally define the term one way in the language of psychology and another way in common usage. In psychology, according to the online Merriam-Webster’s Unabridged, it refers to “one whose attention and interests are directed wholly or predominantly toward what is outside the self.” In general usage, however, it simply refers to “a gregarious and unreserved person,” Merriam-Webster’s says. However, the principal spelling in dictionaries is “extrovert,” whether the word is used in the psychological or the general sense.
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- lotsofpulp 4y agoHow Myers Briggs is still a thing boggles me. People would get mocked for taking horoscopes seriously, but Myers Briggs’ unsubstantiated BS is paid for out of company funds.
- IncRnd 4y agoIt doesn't seem to be a valid or useful test.
- hindsightbias 4y agoIt’s better than anything else available to layman, hence why they find it useful.
- mikebenfield 4y agoI agree that Myers Briggs is pretty wishy washy, but "You answered these questions in these particular ways, so we can conclude these facts about your personality" is a completely different galaxy from "You were born in this month, so we can conclude these facts about your future."
- actually_a_dog 4y agoMBTI lumps all people into 16 groups and makes conclusions about them on that basis. Western astrology groups people into 12 groups and makes conclusions based on that. They're both about equally BS.
- ChadNauseam 4y agoLumping people into groups doesn’t BS make. You can lump people into groups based on whether they have schizophrenia, and the diffidence between the average person in the two groups will be pretty clear.
- actually_a_dog 4y agoWay to miss the point. Even with your grouping, you can't make any predictions about what the individuals in those groups would do. That's what both MBTI and astrology are fundamentally about.
- IncRnd 4y ago