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Not my intent, there was a question about what does and what does not constitute proper behavior. I gave a description that clarified that to a certain extent.

Not my intent, there was a question about what does and what does not constitute proper behavior. I gave a description that clarified that to a certain extent. The description is just a description, an answer to a question.

giraffe_lady 4y ago
Your answer really wasn't that neutral, unfortunately. For example both autistic and non-autistic people are capable of meanness, it doesn't really indicate anything either way. In fact neurotypical society is tolerant of cruelty to a degree that causes me an incredible amount of pain and distress. And what are we even to infer from "and so on." Basically that "proper behavior" is what non-autistic people do, and that when we deviate from that it is inherently disruptive and improper. Which, we know that, a big part of our lives are spent managing the consequences imposed on us for not acting in the ways other people expect or demand. It didn't clarify much for me except your ignorance or lack of depth of introspection on this subject, which is why I didn't engage with it further. But this "oh shucks I was just answering the question" response is also bad so here we are. I can't read your intent but I certainly received that response as a dismissive stereotype. If you didn't want it read that way you should rephrase it next time this comes up.
- callesgg 4y ago
  "and so on" was meant too mean "and other stereotypical autistic behaviours". It seams a key difference between us here is that you think stereotypes are dismissive. I just think of them as things that are more common statistically on average in the group of people vs in some other group of other people.
  - cauefcr 4y ago
    Well, i do hope you back that assumption with some actual statistics, otherwise you're just using what is "common sense" or your experience with "x people" as a proxy for data.

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Not my intent, there was a question about what does and what does not constitute proper behavior. I gave a description that clarified that to a certain extent.

by callesgg 4y ago

giraffe_lady 4y ago
Your answer really wasn't that neutral, unfortunately. For example both autistic and non-autistic people are capable of meanness, it doesn't really indicate anything either way. In fact neurotypical society is tolerant of cruelty to a degree that causes me an incredible amount of pain and distress. And what are we even to infer from "and so on." Basically that "proper behavior" is what non-autistic people do, and that when we deviate from that it is inherently disruptive and improper. Which, we know that, a big part of our lives are spent managing the consequences imposed on us for not acting in the ways other people expect or demand. It didn't clarify much for me except your ignorance or lack of depth of introspection on this subject, which is why I didn't engage with it further. But this "oh shucks I was just answering the question" response is also bad so here we are. I can't read your intent but I certainly received that response as a dismissive stereotype. If you didn't want it read that way you should rephrase it next time this comes up.
- callesgg 4y ago
  "and so on" was meant too mean "and other stereotypical autistic behaviours". It seams a key difference between us here is that you think stereotypes are dismissive. I just think of them as things that are more common statistically on average in the group of people vs in some other group of other people.
  - cauefcr 4y ago
    Well, i do hope you back that assumption with some actual statistics, otherwise you're just using what is "common sense" or your experience with "x people" as a proxy for data.