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There's a very good reason the bottom panel isn't part of the cooling system, as a 70C panel sitting on one's lap could be indicated in infertility, long before

There's a very good reason the bottom panel isn't part of the cooling system, as a 70C panel sitting on one's lap could be indicated in infertility, long before it causes any burns or other obvious discomfort. If the Air had a Surface Book like design where the heat could radiate behind the display, this would be a different affair. It doesn't, so that heat will go to your legs and what's between them. Beyond just being uncomfortable, this would be a liability and press issue that no one at any laptop company wants to deal with. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0015028210026890 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00150...

Xeoncross 4y ago
So someone who is able to install custom heatsinks on an expensive electronic is also going to be rendering long professional videos (to get it hot) and keep that +150F degree laptop on their lap long enough to cook their goods? That sounds a little far fetched.
- kube-system 4y ago
  The person you are replying to is explaining why Apple doesn't do it. They didn't say anything about third party modifications. Someone who modifies their own laptop is not going to sue themselves over it, so that concern obviously doesn't apply to that scenario :)
BizarroLand 4y ago
They make very inexpensive laptop fan pads that would completely prevent that from ever happening and add additional cooling to the laptop.
gnicholas 4y ago
Do you mean permanent infertility, or just for the sperm that are currently present? I have to imagine it's the latter, which is not a big deal for anyone not looking to conceive. If there were persistent effects (even short of full infertility), that could be a much more serious issue.
- dev_tty01 4y ago
  No permanent damage is your threshold for what is acceptable? There is plenty of discomfort long before we get to permanent damage. Are you really arguing that companies should base their product designs on whether or not the problems they create for their users are permanent or not? No company with any hope of success would ever use such a criteria.
  - filoleg 4y ago
    > No permanent damage is your threshold for what is acceptable? Not the person you are replying to, but it depends on what kind of damage. If it left painful burns or something actually bothersome, then I wouldn't like it, no. If it is just gonna make me unable to have kids until I stop putting the device on my lap, then I am totally ok with that. I currently don't want kids, so this does nothing to me. And if I change my mind later, I can just alter my device usage accordingly, since it isn't permanent.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  I wonder if labeling the product with a sticker saying "may temporarily sterilize men" would help or hurt sales.
93po 4y ago
joke's on them, I have a vasectomy. free performance boost!

Xeoncross 4y ago

So someone who is able to install custom heatsinks on an expensive electronic is also going to be rendering long professional videos (to get it hot) and keep that +150F degree laptop on their lap long enough to cook their goods? That sounds a little far fetched.

kube-system 4y ago
The person you are replying to is explaining why Apple doesn't do it. They didn't say anything about third party modifications. Someone who modifies their own laptop is not going to sue themselves over it, so that concern obviously doesn't apply to that scenario :)

BizarroLand 4y ago

They make very inexpensive laptop fan pads that would completely prevent that from ever happening and add additional cooling to the laptop.

gnicholas 4y ago

Do you mean permanent infertility, or just for the sperm that are currently present? I have to imagine it's the latter, which is not a big deal for anyone not looking to conceive. If there were persistent effects (even short of full infertility), that could be a much more serious issue.

dev_tty01 4y ago
No permanent damage is your threshold for what is acceptable? There is plenty of discomfort long before we get to permanent damage. Are you really arguing that companies should base their product designs on whether or not the problems they create for their users are permanent or not? No company with any hope of success would ever use such a criteria.
- filoleg 4y ago
  > No permanent damage is your threshold for what is acceptable? Not the person you are replying to, but it depends on what kind of damage. If it left painful burns or something actually bothersome, then I wouldn't like it, no. If it is just gonna make me unable to have kids until I stop putting the device on my lap, then I am totally ok with that. I currently don't want kids, so this does nothing to me. And if I change my mind later, I can just alter my device usage accordingly, since it isn't permanent.
MichaelCollins 4y ago
I wonder if labeling the product with a sticker saying "may temporarily sterilize men" would help or hurt sales.

93po 4y ago

joke's on them, I have a vasectomy. free performance boost!