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I created a burner Facebook account just to use Marketplace. On day 0 I'm told that I can't use Marketplace 'yet.' Every day for a few weeks I login and check a

I created a burner Facebook account just to use Marketplace. On day 0 I'm told that I can't use Marketplace 'yet.' Every day for a few weeks I login and check and get the same message. Sometime at the 3-4 week mark I'm told I need to add a phone number or my account will be disabled. Back to craigslist/nextdoor/etc Edit: My fault for using a loaded term like 'burner'. I don't have a facebook account. I created a 'real' account that I intended to use for marketplace. Apparently the lack of posting and/or lack of phone number is the issue facebook has, which is the issue I have with it.

TameAntelope 4y ago
Well yeah, it’s probably against the FB ToS to create a burner account, so it sounds like they correctly detected an account that wasn’t legitimate.
colordrops 4y ago
It's amazing that it's possible to create "burner" accounts but my 15 year old account was banned twice for trying to authenticate oculus software so I could root an Oculus Go using John Carmack's technique. I gave up on getting unbanned after the second banning and haven't looked back.
- Consultant32452 4y ago
  My friend has a German last name that sounds a bit Nazi-esque, she had to make a fake ID and use a fake name on FaceBook because they would not believe her real name.
stu2b50 4y ago
I mean what you experienced is the value add of facebook marketplace (in addition to convenience).
rchaud 4y ago
Well....yeah? It's Facebook, not Twitter. Burner accounts are specifically not wanted. And FB likely also doesn't want anonymous users potentially trading illegal/stolen goods.
NikolaNovak 4y ago
Hmm, tricky. On one hand, I enjoy potential for anonymity on the web, and even in a social network I want there to be an option to contribute thoughts/opinions/content anonymously. FB & Twitter's veiled (not even upfront and honest!) insistence on phones is awful. On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace, I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to my door to pick up synths or cameras or baby stuff :-/
- johncessna 4y ago
  > On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace, I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to my door to pick up synths or cameras or baby stuff :-/ That's an interesting perspective. Is it the 'burner' aspect that you don't want, or the lack of being able to look at someone's social media to determine if this is someone you want to do business with?
  - NikolaNovak 4y ago
    Ultimately it's a recursive thing: If I buy or purchase something from FB marketplace, it's because I desire the real or perceived assurance of a real permanent public identity. Or to put it another way, I want their stake in the game to be comparable to mine. If somebody is contacting me on FB marketplace in an anonymous fashion with no history or traceability, to me, they're voiding the benefit of FB marketplace. It becomes an uncomfortable asymmetric situation, and I see no benefit, and multiple drawbacks, of engaging with them with my full public, historic, traceable personality, against their black box. There is nothing wrong with the anonymous mode, in fact it's great - as long as it's symmetric. If my SugahHoney2001 meets your RoosterBooster17 in a parking lot via Kijiji to exchange some cameras, cool. If my John Smith meets your Jane Doe at my doorstep with full identity on FB or Linked in to buy some synths, cool. But if my Tom Jones, 57, Brampton, working for Microsoft, 845 public photos, hobbies of square dancing and kite gliding, is approached by your ___ from ___ and ____, I'm not going to respond - it's placing all the risk and commitment on one side of transaction. Hope that elaborates my personal perspective somewhat :)
  - 4y ago

TameAntelope 4y ago

Well yeah, it’s probably against the FB ToS to create a burner account, so it sounds like they correctly detected an account that wasn’t legitimate.

colordrops 4y ago

It's amazing that it's possible to create "burner" accounts but my 15 year old account was banned twice for trying to authenticate oculus software so I could root an Oculus Go using John Carmack's technique. I gave up on getting unbanned after the second banning and haven't looked back.

Consultant32452 4y ago
My friend has a German last name that sounds a bit Nazi-esque, she had to make a fake ID and use a fake name on FaceBook because they would not believe her real name.

stu2b50 4y ago

I mean what you experienced is the value add of facebook marketplace (in addition to convenience).

rchaud 4y ago

Well....yeah? It's Facebook, not Twitter. Burner accounts are specifically not wanted. And FB likely also doesn't want anonymous users potentially trading illegal/stolen goods.

NikolaNovak 4y ago

Hmm, tricky. On one hand, I enjoy potential for anonymity on the web, and even in a social network I want there to be an option to contribute thoughts/opinions/content anonymously. FB & Twitter's veiled (not even upfront and honest!) insistence on phones is awful. On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace, I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to my door to pick up synths or cameras or baby stuff :-/

johncessna 4y ago
> On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace, I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to my door to pick up synths or cameras or baby stuff :-/ That's an interesting perspective. Is it the 'burner' aspect that you don't want, or the lack of being able to look at someone's social media to determine if this is someone you want to do business with?
- NikolaNovak 4y ago
  Ultimately it's a recursive thing: If I buy or purchase something from FB marketplace, it's because I desire the real or perceived assurance of a real permanent public identity. Or to put it another way, I want their stake in the game to be comparable to mine. If somebody is contacting me on FB marketplace in an anonymous fashion with no history or traceability, to me, they're voiding the benefit of FB marketplace. It becomes an uncomfortable asymmetric situation, and I see no benefit, and multiple drawbacks, of engaging with them with my full public, historic, traceable personality, against their black box. There is nothing wrong with the anonymous mode, in fact it's great - as long as it's symmetric. If my SugahHoney2001 meets your RoosterBooster17 in a parking lot via Kijiji to exchange some cameras, cool. If my John Smith meets your Jane Doe at my doorstep with full identity on FB or Linked in to buy some synths, cool. But if my Tom Jones, 57, Brampton, working for Microsoft, 845 public photos, hobbies of square dancing and kite gliding, is approached by your ___ from ___ and ____, I'm not going to respond - it's placing all the risk and commitment on one side of transaction. Hope that elaborates my personal perspective somewhat :)
- 4y ago