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You are saying wind and sun don’t work? O_o

mdp2021 4y ago
Probably intended that there is not full warranty of output. But for other more traditional sources is the same - and this very submission is about the matter. Traditional energy plants in the North of Italy, suffering droughts, are currently emitting reduced power because less water flow decreases output.
JimiofEden 4y ago
It's less that they don't work and more that they don't work optimally in the affected areas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0sq5GN7xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0sq5GN7xc Zeihan is a bit US-centric overall, but his energy talks are sound (or I'm too biased to realize they're just confirming my own views.)
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  > (or I'm too biased to realize they're just confirming my own views.) If you genuinely care, this is the real answer. Lignite is a poor fuel for many reasons, but that handwavey part about solar and lignite being worse than lignite and it's all a big scam that the silly greens are too stupid to notice is just totally wrong. As is the bit about green collapse he predicts when it is discovered to "not work" in Europe. It's a very weird argument, since he's admitting it works (sort of) in California and Texas but still has a weirdly negative tone about it and Greens. Basically, it's just yet another fallback position for people who have been consistently wrong about energy policy for decades and still feel able to poke fun at Greens for being unrealistic, because their audience is so misinformed. California imports 90% of its natural gas from other states. If that was somehow threatened to be cut off, California would struggle too. It would tell us nothing about renewables, and tell us everything about how your neighbours being dicks to you can be a hassle. Which is actually a selling point for renewables and helps drive Chinese interest, since they don't won't to rely on others for fuel.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
  Seems like good points made in the video, I’ll watch a few more before I sub.

mdp2021 4y ago

Probably intended that there is not full warranty of output. But for other more traditional sources is the same - and this very submission is about the matter. Traditional energy plants in the North of Italy, suffering droughts, are currently emitting reduced power because less water flow decreases output.

JimiofEden 4y ago

It's less that they don't work and more that they don't work optimally in the affected areas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0sq5GN7xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0sq5GN7xc Zeihan is a bit US-centric overall, but his energy talks are sound (or I'm too biased to realize they're just confirming my own views.)

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
> (or I'm too biased to realize they're just confirming my own views.) If you genuinely care, this is the real answer. Lignite is a poor fuel for many reasons, but that handwavey part about solar and lignite being worse than lignite and it's all a big scam that the silly greens are too stupid to notice is just totally wrong. As is the bit about green collapse he predicts when it is discovered to "not work" in Europe. It's a very weird argument, since he's admitting it works (sort of) in California and Texas but still has a weirdly negative tone about it and Greens. Basically, it's just yet another fallback position for people who have been consistently wrong about energy policy for decades and still feel able to poke fun at Greens for being unrealistic, because their audience is so misinformed. California imports 90% of its natural gas from other states. If that was somehow threatened to be cut off, California would struggle too. It would tell us nothing about renewables, and tell us everything about how your neighbours being dicks to you can be a hassle. Which is actually a selling point for renewables and helps drive Chinese interest, since they don't won't to rely on others for fuel.
SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
Seems like good points made in the video, I’ll watch a few more before I sub.