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Ocean's 12 sucked as a movie, and this "plot twist" was just the rancid cherry on top of a steaming pile of nonsense. That's really all that should be taken awa

Ocean's 12 sucked as a movie, and this "plot twist" was just the rancid cherry on top of a steaming pile of nonsense. That's really all that should be taken away from it. Ocean's 11 was cool and unique, and Ocean's 13 was a good sequel. 12 should be banished (just like Stargate: Origins).

smckk 4y ago
Let me change your mind. Ocean's 12 is one of the greatest movies ever made. It is a reality TV-esque take on the lives of master thieves. This begs the question, what does the life of a master thief look like? Is it that of the Night Fox? A wealthy, sophisticated French aristocrat, well-educated and very serious about his craft. Someone who has mastered the art of capoeira to evade security laser beams for example, and goes to such great lengths to be the best? The second question is that of why? Why do you do what you do? What is the Night Fox's motivation for being a master thief? The relentless pursuit of perfection and pulling off the greatest heist ever? Just becoming the best for being the best sake? I would like to present a real life example to you: the ongoing Messi versus Ronaldo debate. Is the greatest football player an inimitable, natural-born artist or a perfection obsessed workaholic who probably owns a cryogenic chamber in which he sleeps every night to maintain peek physical fitness? With these questions in mind, a second and third viewing of the Ocean's 12 movie will help you decide the debate of who is the greatest thief of them all. If you were disappointed because you were looking for a heist movie with cool gadgets and mind-freak tricks, you can google "heist movie" and watch whatever pops up first (Now You See Me). Ocean's 12 is for philosophical rumination.
fortran77 4y ago
> Ocean's 11 was cool and unique, It might have been cool, but it wasn't "unique." It was the second one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean%27s_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean%27s_11
- forgingahead 4y ago
  Yup fully aware it was a remake, but it was updated well for the time it was released. It also had a different style from the original, so "unique" is a fair term I reckon.

smckk 4y ago

Let me change your mind. Ocean's 12 is one of the greatest movies ever made. It is a reality TV-esque take on the lives of master thieves. This begs the question, what does the life of a master thief look like? Is it that of the Night Fox? A wealthy, sophisticated French aristocrat, well-educated and very serious about his craft. Someone who has mastered the art of capoeira to evade security laser beams for example, and goes to such great lengths to be the best? The second question is that of why? Why do you do what you do? What is the Night Fox's motivation for being a master thief? The relentless pursuit of perfection and pulling off the greatest heist ever? Just becoming the best for being the best sake? I would like to present a real life example to you: the ongoing Messi versus Ronaldo debate. Is the greatest football player an inimitable, natural-born artist or a perfection obsessed workaholic who probably owns a cryogenic chamber in which he sleeps every night to maintain peek physical fitness? With these questions in mind, a second and third viewing of the Ocean's 12 movie will help you decide the debate of who is the greatest thief of them all. If you were disappointed because you were looking for a heist movie with cool gadgets and mind-freak tricks, you can google "heist movie" and watch whatever pops up first (Now You See Me). Ocean's 12 is for philosophical rumination.

fortran77 4y ago

> Ocean's 11 was cool and unique, It might have been cool, but it wasn't "unique." It was the second one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean%27s_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean%27s_11

forgingahead 4y ago
Yup fully aware it was a remake, but it was updated well for the time it was released. It also had a different style from the original, so "unique" is a fair term I reckon.