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What the fentanyl situation shows is that the real problem with the various decriminalization efforts in the US is that they don’t go far enough. They also nee

What the fentanyl situation shows is that the real problem with the various decriminalization efforts in the US is that they don’t go far enough. They also need to be providing legal, vetted, licensed channels that supply drugs to the users so people aren’t using drugs laced with fentanyl. That’s the quickest, easiest and probably the least likely to succeed solution.

deepdriver 4y ago
This is not how decriminalization of hard drugs has succeeded in any other country. Heroin abuse is illegal in Portugal, as is the unauthorized posession of fentanyl, MDMA, cocaine, crack, etc. They won't put you in prison, but they'll take you to jail. Addicts are compelled to enter treatment: https://beportugal.com/portugal-drug-laws/ https://beportugal.com/portugal-drug-laws/ https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ldjif4/the_portugal_model_on_drugs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ldjif4/the_portugal... San Francisco is doing all they can to pursue the sort of plan you propose. It isn't working. Drug abuse and related crimes have only gotten worse. "I heard about Portugal on a podcast" drug policy has been a disaster.
- cannabis_sam 4y ago
  Switzerland pioneered this approach, and it has been implemented in Germany, Netherlands, Canada and Denmark.[0] What does Portugal have to do with it? [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment
  - deepdriver 4y ago
    There is a difference between legalizing recreational heroin, as the parent comment and activists like Dr. Carl Hart suggest, and providing maintenance doses in a medical setting under supervised and monitored conditions. Switzerland does the latter. Portgul is relevant because their program of decriminalization is frequently referenced in media and by US policymakers.
pstuart 4y ago
Hear, hear! Society is just fine with people killing themselves with drugs as long as they are alcohol and tobacco. The problem is too much money is made off the current situation and most the population has been brainwashed into thinking that making drugs illegal will protect us from them.

deepdriver 4y ago

This is not how decriminalization of hard drugs has succeeded in any other country. Heroin abuse is illegal in Portugal, as is the unauthorized posession of fentanyl, MDMA, cocaine, crack, etc. They won't put you in prison, but they'll take you to jail. Addicts are compelled to enter treatment: https://beportugal.com/portugal-drug-laws/ https://beportugal.com/portugal-drug-laws/ https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ldjif4/the_portugal_model_on_drugs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ldjif4/the_portugal... San Francisco is doing all they can to pursue the sort of plan you propose. It isn't working. Drug abuse and related crimes have only gotten worse. "I heard about Portugal on a podcast" drug policy has been a disaster.

cannabis_sam 4y ago
Switzerland pioneered this approach, and it has been implemented in Germany, Netherlands, Canada and Denmark.[0] What does Portugal have to do with it? [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment
- deepdriver 4y ago
  There is a difference between legalizing recreational heroin, as the parent comment and activists like Dr. Carl Hart suggest, and providing maintenance doses in a medical setting under supervised and monitored conditions. Switzerland does the latter. Portgul is relevant because their program of decriminalization is frequently referenced in media and by US policymakers.

pstuart 4y ago

Hear, hear! Society is just fine with people killing themselves with drugs as long as they are alcohol and tobacco. The problem is too much money is made off the current situation and most the population has been brainwashed into thinking that making drugs illegal will protect us from them.