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Today's intense culture war began with Bill Clinton taking the White House in 1992 (which shocked Republicans to their cores) and was exacerbated by the removal

Today's intense culture war began with Bill Clinton taking the White House in 1992 (which shocked Republicans to their cores) and was exacerbated by the removal of earmarks from legislation. These caused a wholesale demographic shift that turned political parties into polar monoliths. The only thing that kept Republicans from radicalizing even further this time around is that Trump was basically voted out of office for being obnoxiously antagonistic.

jmyeet 4y ago
> Bill Clinton taking the White House in 1992 You mean the Bill Clinton who was so cucked by conservatism that he passed the "Law and Order" Bill of 1994 that made him the architect of mass incarceration? That Bill Clinton? Clinton pretty much only won because Ross Perot was a conservative spoiler in 1992. The modern Republican Party is a project spanning 50+ years that really began with racial desegregation. The so-called "originalist" interpretation of the Constitution that now dominates the Supreme Court is a modern invention of the Nixon era. The Federalist Society began is a project in the 1980s to create a pipeline to push this completely made up "philosophy". Prior to the mid-to-late 1970s, abortion wasn't a controversial topic. Catholics had been opposed. No one else really cared (or, rather, they viewed it as a personal choice where the Bible was silent on the issue). We are now in an era where Supreme Court just openly lie to justify a political agenda. Two prime examples: 1. The coach who Gorsuch claimed was quietly praying despite photographic evidence to the contrary [1]; and 2. Alito claiming abortion was never part of our tradition despite Ben Franklin publishing instructions on how to do an abortion at home [2]. Hopefully you're just an unwitting victim of this very effective propaganda that makes you believe the Democrats somehow started the culture war. I hope for your sake you wake up to the fact that you've been systematically lied to. [1]: https://www.vox.com/2022/6/27/23184848/supreme-court-kennedy-bremerton-school-football-coach-prayer-neil-gorsuch https://www.vox.com/2022/6/27/23184848/supreme-court-kennedy... [2]:https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-franklin-roe-wade-supreme-court-leak https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-frank...
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  Yes, that Bill Clinton. The one whose wife tried to architect a form of universal healthcare and was hounded for over thirty years for her transgressions. I am fully aware of the history of abortion-opposition and have posted about it multiple times on this site. Here's the thing though: I lived through the era as a young adult. So while you have links, I have lived experience. I know what I saw and who said what. I never said Democrats started the culture war. The "Gingrich revolution" and his Contract on America was a full throated reaction to Democrats winning the White House. It reshuffled the political parties along ideological lines and eliminated most Blue Dog Democrats. Maybe learn some history before coming at people with whatever you learned last week.
  - selimthegrim 4y ago
    Letting Leon Panetta curb stomp her in front of her reports over drones in AfPak does not make for presidential timber.
- nemo44x 4y ago
  Dude, all philosophies are made up. That’s sort of the point.

jmyeet 4y ago

> Bill Clinton taking the White House in 1992 You mean the Bill Clinton who was so cucked by conservatism that he passed the "Law and Order" Bill of 1994 that made him the architect of mass incarceration? That Bill Clinton? Clinton pretty much only won because Ross Perot was a conservative spoiler in 1992. The modern Republican Party is a project spanning 50+ years that really began with racial desegregation. The so-called "originalist" interpretation of the Constitution that now dominates the Supreme Court is a modern invention of the Nixon era. The Federalist Society began is a project in the 1980s to create a pipeline to push this completely made up "philosophy". Prior to the mid-to-late 1970s, abortion wasn't a controversial topic. Catholics had been opposed. No one else really cared (or, rather, they viewed it as a personal choice where the Bible was silent on the issue). We are now in an era where Supreme Court just openly lie to justify a political agenda. Two prime examples: 1. The coach who Gorsuch claimed was quietly praying despite photographic evidence to the contrary [1]; and 2. Alito claiming abortion was never part of our tradition despite Ben Franklin publishing instructions on how to do an abortion at home [2]. Hopefully you're just an unwitting victim of this very effective propaganda that makes you believe the Democrats somehow started the culture war. I hope for your sake you wake up to the fact that you've been systematically lied to. [1]: https://www.vox.com/2022/6/27/23184848/supreme-court-kennedy-bremerton-school-football-coach-prayer-neil-gorsuch https://www.vox.com/2022/6/27/23184848/supreme-court-kennedy... [2]:https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-franklin-roe-wade-supreme-court-leak https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-frank...

MisterBastahrd 4y ago
Yes, that Bill Clinton. The one whose wife tried to architect a form of universal healthcare and was hounded for over thirty years for her transgressions. I am fully aware of the history of abortion-opposition and have posted about it multiple times on this site. Here's the thing though: I lived through the era as a young adult. So while you have links, I have lived experience. I know what I saw and who said what. I never said Democrats started the culture war. The "Gingrich revolution" and his Contract on America was a full throated reaction to Democrats winning the White House. It reshuffled the political parties along ideological lines and eliminated most Blue Dog Democrats. Maybe learn some history before coming at people with whatever you learned last week.
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  Letting Leon Panetta curb stomp her in front of her reports over drones in AfPak does not make for presidential timber.
nemo44x 4y ago
Dude, all philosophies are made up. That’s sort of the point.