The Ecobee is not really any better. It has various "features" which all end up in setting the temperature at a very uncomfortable setting even when you're home

The Ecobee is not really any better. It has various "features" which all end up in setting the temperature at a very uncomfortable setting even when you're home. If I wanted those kind of savings, I could have just turned down my thermostat myself. Jeesh. Matt Risinger (youtube expert builder guy) mentioned these are not anywhere near as valuable as they seem, and I'm inclined to agree. It's nice to be able to flick it on vacation mode when you're away I suppose. I'd still buy it again, nice geeky metrics, and it's a quality company, but it doesn't save me anywhere close to 30% (or whatever the claim was).