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Who will bear the cost of bandwidth, servers and maintenance? What if it's not just your friends thats mainly using it but millions of people who rely on genero

Who will bear the cost of bandwidth, servers and maintenance? What if it's not just your friends thats mainly using it but millions of people who rely on generous few to keep the lights on? What happens if somebody uses multiple IP addresses to download and drain the bandwidth with other users complaining? Who will handle those tickets?

vorpalhex 4y ago
Well it's peertube so bandwidth is reasonable. Most cheap high bandwidth projects rack machines in datacenters where you pay for the pipe, not the gig. Servers and other fixed costs can be handled by donations or selling merch. Tickets and high bandwidth cases may not be a good fit for the project, or may be on a "as available" basis.
- upupandup 4y ago
  > Servers and other fixed costs can be handled by donations or selling merch. IF this was true we would already have a Youtube competitor. We don't.
  - vorpalhex 4y ago
    You are misunderstanding peertube. It's not "Youtube but self hosted". It is peer to peer bittorrent distributed streams. You still need seeds but bandwidth is reduced.
contravariant 4y ago
If big servers were the only ones paying for bandwidth this argument would make sense, but the way the internet works right now is everyone is paying for all the bandwidth they use so there's not a priori a reason to assume the bandwidth is entirely unpaid for. As torrents demonstrate it's not necessarily bandwidth that's a problem, it's mostly durability and discoverability.
- upupandup 4y ago
  I'm not sure if I follow, who is going to foot the million+ bill?
  - contravariant 4y ago
    The ~million users.
    - upupandup 4y ago
      so you think everyone of those million users is going to donate more than $5? even then it wouldn't be be able to handle the traffic or keep the lights on. im sorry but you clearly have not thought this through. its just not sustainable with this donation model.
      - contravariant 4y ago
        What donation? I'm paying for every bit that I send or receive!

vorpalhex 4y ago

Well it's peertube so bandwidth is reasonable. Most cheap high bandwidth projects rack machines in datacenters where you pay for the pipe, not the gig. Servers and other fixed costs can be handled by donations or selling merch. Tickets and high bandwidth cases may not be a good fit for the project, or may be on a "as available" basis.

upupandup 4y ago
> Servers and other fixed costs can be handled by donations or selling merch. IF this was true we would already have a Youtube competitor. We don't.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  You are misunderstanding peertube. It's not "Youtube but self hosted". It is peer to peer bittorrent distributed streams. You still need seeds but bandwidth is reduced.

contravariant 4y ago

If big servers were the only ones paying for bandwidth this argument would make sense, but the way the internet works right now is everyone is paying for all the bandwidth they use so there's not a priori a reason to assume the bandwidth is entirely unpaid for. As torrents demonstrate it's not necessarily bandwidth that's a problem, it's mostly durability and discoverability.

upupandup 4y ago
I'm not sure if I follow, who is going to foot the million+ bill?
- contravariant 4y ago
  The ~million users.
  - upupandup 4y ago
    so you think everyone of those million users is going to donate more than $5? even then it wouldn't be be able to handle the traffic or keep the lights on. im sorry but you clearly have not thought this through. its just not sustainable with this donation model.
    - contravariant 4y ago
      What donation? I'm paying for every bit that I send or receive!