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Cool. So if I understand you correctly, you effectively want to decouple hosting (where the bits are) from exposure (how I as a user find and view them).

tpxl 4y ago
I think three models are viable: * Youtube-like website where people post videos * A hosted service on your own domain where they host the videos (like the parent was talking about) * A self hosted version where you host the videos and pay for technical support
riffic 4y ago
I made some edits to my parent comment to further explain my pitch and what the benefit to my hypothetical example city would be if they were to be a Framasoft / Peertube customer.
toomuchtodo 4y ago
The Wordpress equivalent of YouTube, with discovery and federation plug-ins. Anyone can host a Wordpress instance, but you can also pay Automattic to host it for you (your data is also portable and you can move from hosted to self hosted and vice versa).
- riffic 4y ago
  that should probably be my go-to metaphor here. Automattic seems to be doing okay as a professional WordPress hosting shop. Your clarification about the data being portable is definitely key here.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    You might find these resources of value: https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibility-and-archiving-are-made-easier-by-extending-peertube/ https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibil... https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/ https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/
    - riffic 4y ago
      really cool! Cities aren't the only ideal client to make this pitch to either, there are all sorts of art collectives, educators, museums, even commercial interests who would probably benefit to move off of YouTube perhaps simply for the privacy and data collection concerns.
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      - toomuchtodo 4y ago
        Agreed. Framasoft really needs to consider becoming the Automattic equivalent to Peertube, which could then spin up the revenue flywheel for further development. Donations have worked so far, but only work up to a point. You need dedicated engineering, product management, customer support, etc if you want to take on Youtube, and the vast majority of customers don't want to do this work themselves (in my experience). They want to provide a payment method and either be turned loose on the product or have their hand held.

tpxl 4y ago

I think three models are viable: * Youtube-like website where people post videos * A hosted service on your own domain where they host the videos (like the parent was talking about) * A self hosted version where you host the videos and pay for technical support

riffic 4y ago

I made some edits to my parent comment to further explain my pitch and what the benefit to my hypothetical example city would be if they were to be a Framasoft / Peertube customer.

toomuchtodo 4y ago

The Wordpress equivalent of YouTube, with discovery and federation plug-ins. Anyone can host a Wordpress instance, but you can also pay Automattic to host it for you (your data is also portable and you can move from hosted to self hosted and vice versa).

riffic 4y ago
that should probably be my go-to metaphor here. Automattic seems to be doing okay as a professional WordPress hosting shop. Your clarification about the data being portable is definitely key here.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  You might find these resources of value: https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibility-and-archiving-are-made-easier-by-extending-peertube/ https://www.ngi.eu/blog/2021/10/05/internet-trust-accessibil... https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/ https://beeldengeluid.github.io/extending-peertube/
  - riffic 4y ago
    really cool! Cities aren't the only ideal client to make this pitch to either, there are all sorts of art collectives, educators, museums, even commercial interests who would probably benefit to move off of YouTube perhaps simply for the privacy and data collection concerns.
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    - toomuchtodo 4y ago
      Agreed. Framasoft really needs to consider becoming the Automattic equivalent to Peertube, which could then spin up the revenue flywheel for further development. Donations have worked so far, but only work up to a point. You need dedicated engineering, product management, customer support, etc if you want to take on Youtube, and the vast majority of customers don't want to do this work themselves (in my experience). They want to provide a payment method and either be turned loose on the product or have their hand held.